@KC_194

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In reflecting on what I’ve learned through this book, it is extremely clear that social control is in every institution, including the family and schools. This is true for everyone, but the effects of this are exacerbated for those who have little resources coupled with racism #so345
@Argyle_ I agree, however, I would bet there’s more going on here such as strong intimidation tactics and such. This plea deal for those who are innocent happens all of the time, and even for those who aren’t innocent when in reality it makes the individual much worse off #so345
I think Rios is an excellent public speaker, and takes you through the whole span of emotions in a quick 10 minute video. However I think going off of his teachers advice, the “I’m here when you’re ready” is key. As much as you can want to help someone, you can only help insofar as they are willing to let you help. And that’s true of any relationship #so345
Rios really emphasized the point in this chapter that those who are bullied are not bullied because of their grades, but because of their appearance of participating in the police system. For the non-criminal boys, even just not fighting back was seen as participating. Do you think this has anything to do with masculinity? #so345
I think the idea that one of the boys "fit the description" is a micro-agression in it of itself. More than likely, the police saw someone who was Black, especially in a neighborhood where that was less common, and attempted to punish him for that. He left Oakland to get away from the punitive social control, but without success. #so345
@coconutlattelvr I agree. And it was really sad that the ones that were successful, were the ones that accepted abuse from the police. How is that a standard of living? It's not. #so345
@klg20 I think this is extremely complicated and does not have an easy solution. The reason these neighborhoods are "high-crime" is becayse that is where police are stationed, and are particularly looking to criminalize their actions. I actually think it would be safer with a lower police presence #so345
The gender effects exist as another paradigm and paradox that exists in this book that increases the nuances that police (pun intended) the everyday lives of this community #so345
With this discussion of masculinity, there was a feminization of woman that was underlying Rios argument. Insisting that women can be masculine too, but that suggests that the norm is that they are not, and have not been. #so345
@klg20 @GSMD05 I think this is important, but it's not necessarily that they are learning different norms, it's that when presented with conflicting norms, they prioritize ones that they believe will incriminate them less. However, frustrations arise when their best efforts aren't food enough #so345