Does The Men's Rights Movement Have A Future? - Lemmy.World
Inspired by this essay https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/d504rr026
[https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/d504rr026] The parallels between
the contemporary MRM and Environmentalism are striking, and elucidated sharply
in the writings of dissidents within The Green Movement, similar to those
expressed in the link above. Just a few parallels Quote: “There is a paradox at
the heart of contemporary American environ- mentalism. On the one hand, its
organizations are generally larger, stronger, bet- ter funded, and more
knowledgeable than ever before. Membership has grown in recent years; there are
now more than eight million dues- paying members of the major national organi-
zations—and many more in local and statewide organizations—compared to about two
million in 1980. Moreover, polls consistently show very high levels of public
support for environmen- tal protection, levels that would be the envy of many
progressive movements.” In a similar fashion, “men’s issues” have, in a sense
never enjoyed the sort of exposure that they enjoy today. While MRA
organizations aren’t necessarily larger and stronger than they were in the past,
more of them exist than was the case at the beginning of the 2010s, especially
at the local and state level. Similarly, polls consistently show that public
support for initiatives like shared parenting legislation, criminal justice
reform, and restoring due process on university campuses is high “And yet:
environmentalists find themselves playing defense far more than offense,
devoting time and resources to fighting proposals such as drilling in the Arctic
National Wildlife Refuge, rather than forging new responses to crises such as
climate change. Indeed, noth- ing that these large and expert organizations
accomplished during the Clinton-Gore years— to say nothing of the present Bush
years—com- pares to such landmark victories as the Na- tional Environmental
Policy Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Endangered Species Act, which a much
more inchoate movement won a generation ago.” We here at The MRM have similarly
been playing defense more than offense since this iteration of the movement
began in the mid-10s. During the movement’s heyday between '15 and '19, our
activity was mostly confined to Triggering The Libs on social media, and issuing
rebuttals to things like The Gillete Ad and Brie Larson’s comments(
https://variety.com/video/brie-larson-crystal-lucy-awards-critics/
[https://variety.com/video/brie-larson-crystal-lucy-awards-critics/] )via
YouTube videos, rather than forging fresh responses to crises like under and
unemployment in America, a phenomena which disproportionately affects men. The
present MRM’s achievements during The Trump years(an era which was ostensibly
more friendly to MRA talking points) aren’t remotely comparable to the
legislative and social victories of a more inchoate movement during The 90s and
The 2000s https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10183
[https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10183]
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-06-30-9102270767-story.html
[https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-06-30-9102270767-story.html]
https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/
[https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg] Robert Glover published his
seminal book No More Nice Guy in '02
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20020509&slug=niceguy09
[https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20020509&slug=niceguy09] , and
Marc Rudov published his book around the same time
https://www.amazon.com/Mans-No-Nonsense-Guide-Women-Succeed/dp/0974501719
[https://www.amazon.com/Mans-No-Nonsense-Guide-Women-Succeed/dp/0974501719]
James Cook and David Levy won imperfect yet monumental legislative victories,
while advocates like Baber, Kammer, and Arst gave us what The Woke Warriors over
at The Take now lament as The Post-Feminist late 90s-2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxgEIcMB6o
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxgEIcMB6o] Ya know, the days where Askmen.com
[http://Askmen.com] was writing from an unapologetically male standpoint (
https://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-signs-youre-too-good-for-her.html
[https://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-signs-youre-too-good-for-her.html]
https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_60/80b_dating_tips.html
[https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_60/80b_dating_tips.html]
https://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-signs-shell-be-a-bad-mother.html
[https://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-signs-shell-be-a-bad-mother.html]
https://au.askmen.com/top_10/dating/things-women-do-to-emasculate-men_3.html
[https://au.askmen.com/top_10/dating/things-women-do-to-emasculate-men_3.html]
); loudly as today’s Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology doth protest to the
contrary, they haven’t said anything new. Starting in the early 2000s, public
willingness to acknowledge that women were just as prone to murderous acts as we
men are led to the creation of the series Snapped, which didn’t portray the gals
they profiled as anything but the criminals that they are. In '09, one of NPR’s
flagship programs-Talk Of The Nation-brought the terrific Ned Holstein on to
discuss the fraud that is The Duluth Model
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106820029
[https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106820029] , and even
Tyra Banks devoted an entire hour to female on male DV, in which the perpetrator
wasn’t given a free pass because she was female
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdC0a_agt0E
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdC0a_agt0E] By contrast, the present day MRM
is largely seen as sideshow unto itself, more famous for it’s association with
non-troverseries like Gamer Gate and Comics Gate than anything else. Here in
'22, Third Wave Feminism still exerts the stranglehold over the mainstream media
that an earlier decade of feminism did during the late 70s-the late 90s, and
there’s no signs of this stranglehold loosening it’s grip anytime soon “The same
polls that regularly show high levels of public support also reveal this support
to be quite shallow. The environ- ment rarely rises to the upper levels of con-
cern. This may help explain why, despite the gulf between George W. Bush’s and
John Kerry’s policy proposals, environmental issues generated almost no
attention during the presi- dential campaign.” Not much of a rewrite required
here. The polls also indicate that while public support for making shared
parenting legislation the law of the land, criminal justice reform, and
enforcing due process on campus are high, that support is also remarkably
shallow, and rarely coming anywhere close to the Top 5 worries which are
foremost in the minds of most Americans. This may account, at least in part, for
the fact that neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden said much about men’s issues
during the last election cycle, despite The MRM having enjoyed 18 minutes of
fame during the mid-10s, during which time they were often blamed for Trump’s
victory by the mainstream media For all of they hype around Cassie Jaye’s
documentary The Red Pill upon it’s release, it was also largely a phenomena
among self-proclaimed Anti-sJWs(the contemporary MRM is an outgrowth of this
subculture, much in the same Environmentalism is an outgrown of of this
subculture, much in the same Environmentalism is an outgrown of The
Counterculture of The 60s)and their followers. The general public still
continues to view The MRM as little more than a gaggle of socially inept and
neck bearded man-babies, who blame all of the disappointment sin their lives on
women, feminism, The New World Order, The Lizard People, etc etc I could go with
the parallels, but I’m not sufficiently motivated to do so. The rest of you all
read Meyer’s essay, and let me know where you agree with me or think I’m flat
out wrong