@TarbuckTransom Admittedly it's not a good look, I do agree.

That being said, I'm not sure how it's different to many other game companies, and the Guilded service itself doesn't require any of these things (at least not yet. Discord can change, they could too if they got big enough.)

@TarbuckTransom Not... exactly, no. The point was that Discord as a platform is just getting more and more unpleasant to use by the day, and I found a service that isn't trying to advertise Nitro to me every five seconds or inconvenience me because I don't pay a fee.

I haven't had a chance to check out the vid yet but I probably will after stream tonight.

I have different issues with the recommended Matrix/Element. Sure I can guarantee that none of that stuff is there, but it doesn't really offer the services I need, either.

@christiansilvermooon Seconding this because, as a customer service specialist who has to do technical support calls every single day, the average user will literally panic in some cases because you asked them to open their settings app on their device. Usually, the first comments out of people's mouths when I ask them to do this is 'Just so you know, I'm not technically savvy.'

The bottom line is, Matrix is neat as an option, but you're absolutely right. For the average user, it is INCREDIBLY intimidating. Our answer shouldn't be 'well then they shouldn't be using x', it should be 'how do we make this more presentable?'

@TarbuckTransom Please forgive me, I am incredibly out of the loop and know nothing about Roblox at all other than the game doesn't look all that great and appeals more to a younger audience.

In your opinion, what makes them seem overly negative?

@TarbuckTransom A few months ago, I tried out a few platforms, Element/Matrix was one of them. It's... alright, I suppose, but it doesn't give me everything I need, unfortunately. It is something I keep around, however.

I'm not willing to write off Guilded because 'Roblox bad', if I went by that mentality, I wouldn't use ANY service because there's always evil somewhere.
Edit 2: took out first edit cuz I wasn't sure it fit the conversation 
Edit 3: Adding this in; I just want to point out that I am complaining about Discord because I am saddened by the direction it's currently heading, but I cannot make the judgement call that they are 'more evil' or 'less evil.'

(4/4) Whether or not that alternative ends up being Guilded in the long run, I'm not delusional enough to think that that will be it. In fact I dare say it will probably die soon without much love, and the recent poor decision that requires you to have Roblox account. Ultimately, I don't think that's a big deal, it's just an account, but it very clearly made a lot of their former users angry. It is what it is.

So, at least for the time being, that's where I'm most active, and I'll check my Discord occasionally, but I don't live there like I did before.

TL;DR: Discord is intentionally worsening their product, Guilded exists and I think it's better.

Here's the No Text To Speech video I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaEk72Hyvo

If you read all of the posts, thank you for taking your time to read a nerd rant lol (4/4)

EDIT: Updating the link because the one I oringally linked wasn't the video I thought it was.

(3/4)...In the wake of everything, I decided to cancel Discord Nitro. Right now, I don't feel like they should have my money because they are purposefully making their product worse, and there is a better service out there. I was on my phone at the time, so I opened the Discord app, went to the Nitro page, where it blatantly tells me that I CANNOT CANCEL THROUGH THE APP, that I must use a desktop computer.

Now this infuriates me. I have a desktop computer, that's not the issue. In the world we live in today, many people I interact with on a daily basis do not have home computers because their phone has replaced that for them, or a tablet, like an iPad or something similar. To me, this just SCREAMS dark pattern, and it made me want to end my subscription all the more.

I'm still going to be using Discord, because let's be real: that's where most people are. My goal with this post is to just bring to attention that something else is out there and... it's actually better. (3/4)