This is a nonsensical and unrealistic fear/threat to be putting at the top of your list.

The biggest problems are happening right now not in some 90s sci fi films.

One of those threats is automated weaponry and mass surveillance, but not in the comic relief way you speak about it.

What were the two biggest issues for people going into the election? The economy (stagnate wages, inflation, cost of school, medical, housing etc it’s all wrapped up an affordability crisis) and the genocide in Gaza.

Not even close. You live in a tremendous bubble.

The first absolutely. The second not at all.

You starting off with some identity politics nonsense claim just means I dont care to fully respond to the rest of this. Its also old, because so many people on this site are clearly insufferable, bots or so idealistic they flip around to actually fighting against the causes they pretend to care about due to purity testing.

Thats the beauty to silly idealists who pretend they can’t understand that hundreds of employees getting paid full time wont materialize out of thin air to keep a massive project like a web browser alive in the absence of that structure.

In that individuals can be, and that its very difficult to actually do a broad search because content that might exist in one might not exist in another, and that the types of people to run them often dont want search engines indexing them

Firefox then

Whoo it is chained by googles search engine deal

This is some serious self eating idealist talk here.

In life you must realize there are many situations where you think about the context and consequences of your choices, and you choose the closest to viable option.

Firefox is that.

It sucks that there is that google deal, but ultimately the world effects of firefox dying are wide reaching despite its diminishing numbers and so much greater than so many casually Mozilla doomer takes realize.

Do people realize that if Firefox dies (in the many ways that could be interpreted), all of these downstream forks will also die right?

Like, the work to in essence remove unwanted parts of a code base is admirable but its an utterly miniscule fraction of the work that goes into maintaining a modern browser, keeping up with standards, sending people to be voices at conventions, etc.

Literally Firefox.

I feel like the reasons are obvious and I am constantly amazed at people who choose offshoots that end up having problems jsut as bad or worse than Chrome.

• Firefox actually uses an engine independent of Chromium

• Firefox keeps developer documentation for the actual open web in a a clear fashion better than anyone else with MDN.

• Firefox is responsible for all of the heavy lifting for any of the browsers downstream of it that people seem to want to switch to so that Mozilla is less supported and the browsers they are on also break (which is bizzare footgun behaviour in my opinion, and exactly why the people who are idealists inherently can’t win. They shoot themselves in the foot with idealism so hard that companeis don’t even have to care about their opinions).

• Firefox has more resistant than the engine makers of any other browser to anti autonomy web changes like Chromes manifest 3, tvarious new tracking mechanisms and more.

Excuse a little bit of snark at hypothetical responses below, but Im just so frustrated Ill let off a little steam here:

bUt Ai.

So they have a few AI features you have to purposefully find or stumble into, and that means you are going to do everything in your power to make sure your last actual chance to avoid completely Google domination dies too?

You are basically begging for the even more intense enshitification that will come if Firefox actually dies.

bUt SoMeOnE eLsE cAn CoNtInUe DeVeLoPmEnT

Oh yeah? Someone else is going to take on this project with a massive amount of legacy code, inside knowledge and hundreds of people working on it constantly to keep it completely up to date??

You must have been confused when I mentioned above Mozilla does the heavy lifting for the browsers down stream. Just because someone makes a fork that removes features doesnt mean they are equipped to handle the level of work done in the code they are downstream of.

Anyways, the bottom line is, for now, if you actually value open source, the answer is Firefox.

What a bizzare reaction. Sorry I burst your imaginary bubble?

Its interesting to me that your argument is that things completely different to what you are saying is the primary reason you lost, is why she lost but are trying to poorly link them together.

It can’t be both. Either its the change or its the genocide, and its obviously not the latter because the other party is worse.

Even then, your reasoning falls apart because you are refusing to acknoledge that instead people didn’t turn out for harris when they did turn out in normal numbers for trump. For republicans they fall in line, for democrats they fall in love.

Sure there are people who didnt vote for her because her intersectionality of a black Indian woman but that isn’t what lost her election no matter how hard to try to spin your cope.

Just because you want something to be cope as a cheap dismissal doesnt mean it is.

terf Island

Me personally, I’d choose NZ