@Viola I generally aim for 1-2 months sometimes I do it by having sex with him but I restrain him then but the chastity tube back on and lock it. He has complained that the ring stayed on in the past but once I gave him a few orgasms in the cage he hasn’t complained since he’s happy with any orgasm but that feeling of hopeless desperation will set in after awhile I think all key holders have seen it happen