@Wolf480pl @waifu @kurisu @pea @karen @quad There was a civil war when half of them tried to re(con)federate.[0]

I'm in the wrong internet with the wrong equipment to find references, but Tom Woods has mentioned in several episodes how Madison, prez #4, pushed for nationalism and federal power over federation and state power.

I can't say for sure if I've even listened to https://tomwoods.com/ep-369-who-was-the-real-james-madison/ , but its probably a good place to start. I will put it in my queue now.

PS

[0] Yes, mainly for the privilege to treat humans as private property. Just goes to show that centralization sometimes has benefits, as long as you agree with the centralizing power.
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> The states preceded the Union. The Declaration of Independence speaks of “free and independent states” that “have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do.” The British acknowledged the independence not of a single blob, but of individual states, which they proceeded to list one by one. Article II of the Articles of Confederation says the states “retain their sovereignty, freedom, and independence”; they must have enjoyed that sovereignty in the past in order for them to “retain” it in 1781 when the Articles were officially adopted.

https://www.libertyclassroom.com/nullification/
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