Vicky Z
Florianmusing: "algorithms are neutral" is techbro for "guns don't kill people"
avocado goblin@theoutrider I mean the second one is more accurate
@theoutrider in the sense that a neutral algorithm for anything more complicated than a sort or some other very-well understood area (and perhaps even then...) isn't going to be neutral by virtue of embodying at least the design decisions valued by its creators. guns are unable to kill people without being in actual use, whereas an algorithm isn't neutral even when not in use.
Queer Supervillainess@theoutrider Yes, very much so.
Algorithms are neutral, in the sense that they only do what they are designed to do.
The designers, though, definitely imprint their own politics and ideologies when they chose what to optimize for.
@kellerfuchs yeah, I'm mostly angling for the abdication of responsibility that generally comes with the phrase
@theoutrider Yeah, we definitely were on the same page there.