I'm going to keep banging on it for the next couple of days, but my first impressions of Firefox are they've really made some big strides under the hood, but the interface still needs some work.

It seems like it's ready to compete instead of relying on their rep as the plucky underdog.

@Are0h I've been on dat Beta for weeks now, and I have to say, I'm impressed.

I'm no coder, but as a "power user" (gross term I know, but kinda true: lots of specific extensions, multiple profiles, lots of tabs, etc.) who formerly used Chrome almost exclusively, I'm pretty happy with the whole Quantum thing. Way faster than Chrome, super customizable, lots of nice little functional details.

Plus, you know, Mozilla feels (is?) a lot less creepy than Google.

@chillson I hear you. I stopped using Chrome a long time ago because I didn't like everything that was baked into it.

And I feel you on the performance. It's a huge improvement from previous iterations. That's the first thing I noticed when I cracked it open.

@Are0h @chillson
I've been using ff since version 3 and I'm proud of the path they've gone. I honestly don't get it why it has so little market share. It's performance be isn't worse than Chrome for at least last 3 years since I've been checking. It is so customizable and has many good features like reader mode. Too bad they pushed pocket and hello the way google does things

@mdfrg @chillson The fact those features are not unique to Firefox probably explains why FF has had a tough time differentiating itself.

And as Chrome isn't the only browser on the market, FF has had some stiff competition from the ever improving Safari, the steady Opera and the exciting new up and comer, Brave.

It's not a bad browser, by any stretch, but there's just a lot of competition out there and they haven't always responded to that.

@Are0h @chillson True, looks like FF is constantly being pushed into geek niche. With FF57 I have mixed feelings- it might bring some people thanks to being faster but it pisse off many cause of lack of XUL. I think only smart marketing may save mozilla from being an underdog.

@mdfrg @chillson I hear you about XUL, but most users don't care. And if one really cares about it that much, there are forks that still use it.

Marketing probably wouldn't hurt, but the performance boost is a big point. Hopefully, that will remain consistent from here on it.

In any event, it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Mozilla as an organization has been good for the web. I'm kinda pulling for them to take it to the next level.

@Are0h @chillson
Yeah, wellbeing of Mozilla is on our greatest interest. It's like last standing hero between corporations that don't give a damn about privacy. What forks are you talking about?

@mdfrg @chillson I like Mozilla too, but I don't know if I'd say they are the last standing. The web adapts. Tor is always around and now Brave is gaining ground as users are making their privacy a priority.

And check out Water Fox. It's an FF fork that still used XUL. https://www.waterfoxproject.org

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@Are0h @mdfrg I'd like Mozilla a lot more if I could access https://addons.mozilla.org right now...
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@chillson @mdfrg They'll get it sorted. Their servers are probably just being crushed right now based on the attention they are getting from the new release.
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Apparently, it's a good sign that many people are using #firefoxquantum :)

@mdfrg @Are0h Updated FF for Mac and Android just now, but both still have the old design...? Weird.

Guess I'll stick with the Beta version on both platforms for now.