I want to like #Semaphor — a #Slack competitor from SpyderOak that has a nicer UI (IMO) and is fully encrypted and fast — because Slack just seems like one of the centralized Silicon Valley tools in the big tech clique and gets too much of the attention.

But Semaphor, the underdog, doesn't offer much value without the first tier paid plan. Slack is the more economical choice, unfortunately, if you need that kind of group tool.

https://spideroak.com/personal/semaphor

@wion Slack has to pay the bills, so if you're not paying cash for the service up-front, you'll be paying somehow...

@jjg

There it is. You pay to play or get played.

@wion indeed. Thanks for the lead though, I studied spideroak's encryption architecture a while back and was impressed, didn't know they had a collab tool, I'll have to check it out.
@jjg @wion where is the decentralized/federated Slack? :)

@dixongexpat @jjg

It probably exists, in some unattractive form.

@wion @dixongexpat it's one of the tougher things to do in a truly decentralized way. It also depends on what exactly you're looking for (there are some good ZeroNet chat implementations).
@jjg @wion not that I *need* Slack - retiring in 2 months so...