Kate BarrettIf you live in britain, vote for labour
Florian@thewaether I'm still feeling a bit thrown under the bus by the "free movement will end" turn but other than that the manifesto is good
@theoutrider I thought they said the opposite? That they weren't going to focus on immigrtion as an issue at all. I don't know if I can dig up the quote, though
@thewaether yeah, that was the draft manifesto. They backpedalled on that, reportedly Starmer pushed for it to be changed
@theoutrider ugh. I swear, left wing partied keep pandering to the right thinking it will get them votes, and it always leaves their actual base behind. and then they don't vote for them, and it reinforces itself.
Mind, despite labour's failings, this is the most left platform I've seen in this country my whole life, so I'm still voting for them. It's either 1 bad thing or all the bad things
@thewaether I'm not allowed to vote anyway so it's a moot point but I agree. The manifesto also specifies that they would guarantee a "truly meaningful vote on the final deal" which sounds like a get-out clause.
@theoutrider If we HAVE to do brexit though, I want it to be the "I'm doing this so i can naitonalise rail" guy instead of the "I'm doing this to kick black people out and fill my pockets with ca$$$h" lady
@thewaether yeah, obviously. Especially given the context of the wider manifesto I would certainly trust Labour to at least *try* to not shit on everyone in the process, while the Tories are hellbent on turning this place into a turbolibertarian right-wing hellhole
@theoutrider Like... Anyone voting tories must have missed the entirety of last year, the first time they've truly been in power since John Major, and they fucked everything up more than it's ever been fucked in the space of a few months. Despite this, people have really short memories and seem to think labour's the one that's in crisis. Corbyn's the most level-headed of them all right now