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Eugen RochkoThe British tabloid press has doxxed the guy who stopped WannaCry https://thenextweb.com/insider/2017/05/15/doxing-hero-stopped-wannacry-irresponsible-dumb/
inmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSC@Gargron do they want bad things to happen to whoever did it or are they just assholes?
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@inmysocks @Gargron a bit of both [and yes they are arseholes as we call them over here].
There is still a really strong cultural divide between journalists (and to a lesser extent other "liberal arts" professionals) and techies/engineers, especially within those who have been through the University education system that entrenches this. Such attitudes are completely outdated and unhelpful but still exist in UK (maybe even more so than rest of Europe)
Stefanie Schulte@vfrmedia @inmysocks @Gargron My guess is that they were simply after a "good" headline and didn't care about the consequences (or they didn't care enough, at least).
@stefanieschulte @inmysocks @Gargron the UK's press freedom is very high but does not protect individuals especially if they have been involved in any kind of incident (even if they are victims of road accident etc) - I think NL has the right balance where they seem to limit what can be published. DE and FR have even higher privacy rules ut (from reading the local news in these languages) I get impression this is used to "hide bad news" sometimes..
Wolfgang@stefanieschulte @inmysocks @Gargron @vfrmedia from my perspective it's not a hiding of news, but positive to secure victims and not to name suspects of a crime which is under investigation. Often the facts need some time to be evaluated. So a headline like 'WannaCry is from North Korea' is nice, but not evaluated...
Frankie Saxx@vilbi @stefanieschulte @inmysocks @Gargron @vfrmedia In Swedish media there's a principle of not naming suspects until they're convicted. I don't think it's in law, but it might be in union ethics rules. Obviously it doesn't always hold, especially in high profile cases that have a lot of foreign attention as well.
@frankiesaxx @vilbi @stefanieschulte @inmysocks @vfrmedia UK press is a garbage bin. They're all about "name and shame".
@frankiesaxx @Gargron @inmysocks @stefanieschulte @vilbi and this guy isn't even a suspect; he is an investigator helping our country stop a dangerous situation. this is equivalent to a load of places getting burgled, and the press mocking the investigating detective working long hours on the case and exposing that he lives on his own with 5 cats and a bullterrier and eats lots of meat pies..
@vilbi @stefanieschulte @inmysocks @Gargron also Asian hackers (in the whole continent, inclduing KR(S), SG, MY, PH etc) have a sense of humour and sometimes deliberately identify themselves as "North Koreans" as a joke (as part of inverting popular stereotypes about Asians)
@vfrmedia @inmysocks @Gargron It's happened to people from other fields as well, not just tech, see the story of the author Elena Ferrante: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137377/nyrbs-argument-doxing-elena-ferrante-not-good
@Gargron and then British folk wonder why UK kids would rather hide their tech skills, or (if they don't turn to committing cybercrime themselves) would rather work with/for NCA/GCHQ/MI* etc who at least do a better job of "preserving officer safety"..
Antoine Aflalo@Gargron
Researcher: Respect my privacy 🔏
Journalist: he has something to hide! Everybody want to be in the tabloid! Look how much he likes pizza 🍕
Wow... Great journalism there...
Sandro Hawke@Gargron @sandhawke add to that that advertiser are pushing for this kind of attention and you have a recipe for disaster.
It's a pity... It's so hard theses days to get good information.
@Gargron @sandhawke we need to see how many instances will stay up in the long-term.
This is the only part that scares me. I'm not sure people will keep running them as the cost to do it rise, as much as money wise and time wise.
@Balor @Gargron Indeed. Perhaps the highest priority, then, should be migration, so users simply move rather than be burned. Content migration is easy enough; follower migration is harder, but even a partial version might be good enough. https://github.com/swicg/general/issues/1 I'd also like a clear ToS flag where admins explicitly commit to N-days notice of ending support.
Robert Holmes villain@Gargron kill the Mail
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anybody ever start thinking it might actually be a good idea to have citizen orgs (with, perhaps, ex-journos involved in some capacity) watching the press and taking legal action against news sources that do genuinely terrible shit to try to prevent
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pretty much all the worst things that are happening in recent years