I'm still sad that ubuntu is ditching unity for gnome. I never had any of the performance issues, and it was quite nice to use. I hope that till 18.04 LTS comes out, someone figures out how to patch some of the good unity stuff into gnome.
@MochiWaifu i like unity too, though also, wasn't unity just a gnome3 skin? or am i wrong there?
@dolljoints It's based on gnome afaik, it even comes bundled with quite a few gnome apps but it had a lot of changes to it, like the launcher/searchbar, a loooot more hotkeys and also what I really like: making something fullscreen removed the title bar and merged it with the menu bar. gnome doesn't do that. There's some other stuff too I think
@MochiWaifu hm, i totally had thought gnome3 does the mergey thing too :o but yes i do like that about it. i also appreciate its purple/orange theme
@dolljoints hm, i am actually not sure! I just read an arstechnica article about some of the differences, and the author claims gnome doesn't merge.
I actually changed a lot of theme stuff on my installation, everything's black and pink. x)

@MochiWaifu ooh!

(i have an ibook g4, that i had previously put debian on but no WM/DE worked.. though i'm going to try freeBSD on it next time and probably try again, so i'll likely just try a whooole bunch since it's just a machine to play with)

@dolljoints ah, it's nice to have a computer just for toying around with! =3
@MochiWaifu it is, though last time (with debian at least) i kept wishing i had one with a more standard architecture too >.> half of the stuff just couldn't install
@dolljoints mhm, i can imagine it's not easy finding stuff for powerpc :S
but even on newer apple machines, it's not all fun. on my (2012?) mbp I gave up on most stuff. Even reinstalling OS X was awful because USB didn't work or wasn't supported, and it took me 5 DVDs till I managed to burn one that booted. :\

@MochiWaifu ah jeez D: both my intel macs are 2011 models, obtaiend n 2012
i actually need to do a clean in-place reinstall bc i've got lots of weird glitches, and i've upgraded & migrated all the way from 10.5 to 10.12 and then back to 10.11, so, yeah..

the system log is full of garbage conflicts >.>

but yeah debian was one of the few distros whcih supported powerpc, but i since found out BSDs are much better of it and so freeBSD is an option

& lately i like BSD better than linux so yeh

@MochiWaifu i had read that macs were pretty good linux machines bc so many had them and they were all standard, so i'd always just repeated that since i'd not rly tried it for myself
@dolljoints well, they might be! i think you just need to know how the bootloader works, everything after that makes for smooth sailing probably!
I've never used BSD, till a while ago I thought it was a relic of the past. I was really surprised when I found out it was still a think people used and worked on. :o

@MochiWaifu yeah, it's pretty cool how many restarts it's had tbh

osx is BSD-based too
well kinda
darwin is a BSD fork i believe

something like that anyway

(so that might be part of why i prefer it, after i tried it through the freeNAS terminal, is that it's a little more similar to osx's CLI, than linux's [though the differences are minor and i could probably adjust to any])

@dolljoints heh, i wouldn't be able to tell the differences between the command lines probably x)