So, I lost it on the birdsite reading yet another ego-tripping security researcher pulling water to something they wrote two years ago about a concept developed in the 1980s.

https://twitter.com/cynicalsecurity/status/862637099215880193

This stuff whereby all old stuff is ignored and re-invented with more holes than the original (e.g. "cloud computing") is really demoralising.

Don't people read anything except stuff no more than one week old? Is "research" no longer taught?

@cynicalsecurity To be fair: It is entirely normal in the scientific process for stuff to be invented, forgotten, reinvented under different name, forgotten again, buried in wet mud for a few years, used as paper airplane, and eventually taught in universities as trivial.

See the many times automatic differentiation was invented. Or anything else, really.

Even if you try, literature research is hard, and a surprising amount of pre-late-90s-research isn't available in indexable form.

@HalvarFlake literature research is hard but the ego-tripping that comes with reinvention in ITsec is rather unique.

All these people claiming to have the perfect design totally ignoring what came before them?

Seriously, how can you talk "stateless computing" without knowing about VNC's past: it isn't exactly hidden nor is it impossible read about it.

I'll agree that some stuff from the 90's is hard, not to mention 70's and 80's but it can be done.

While I agree that it is normal in...

@HalvarFlake scientific process for stuff to be invented & reinvented there does not seem to be a marketing-led involution like there is in computing and ITsec in particular.

The techniques are worsening, not improving, there is a stagnation of research into new stuff and an acceleration towards cheaper, weaker reimplementations.

It really smells of profit-driven research to me.

@cynicalsecurity @HalvarFlake

It really is - because they're trying to "disrupt" with things that can be relied upon for continual income streams, but the fundamentals of how they work really don't change that much because things that work...well, work.