beatrix bitrotMay 2, 2017

hellllooo friends! time for another announcement!

https://admins.town/

is a real thing now. it's an instance (not mine) where admins are gonna talk about admin shit.

if you're an admin join up!

if you're interested in what admins are up to i guess you can also join up or follow us or use a tool to read off the public feed or gosh i dunno, probably lots of options

this is a direct response to calls for greater insight/transparency into admin discussions. work is ongoing!

feel free to boost

Show threadEugen RochkoMay 2, 2017
@bea but i am an admin doing admin things here, not sure why i'd need an alt in a federated network :P
Show threadbeatrix bitrotMay 2, 2017
@Gargron EUGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't
Show threadEugen RochkoMay 2, 2017
@bea would've been a prime use case for !groups though
Show threadbeatrix bitrotMay 2, 2017
@Gargron this is happening exactly because we don't have groups. if we get them it will probably disappear
Show threadEugen RochkoMay 2, 2017
@bea +1 for groups, -1 for the stupid bangtag syntax though. need some alternative idea of how to address toots to the groups that doesn't involve butchering human-used punctuation
Show threadINACTIVEMay 4, 2017

@Gargron @bea It's actually not that bad of a convention; it kind of aligns with how hashtags themselves are used in microblogging apps.

Besides which, maintaining cross-platform compatibility for OStatus groups is kind of fundamentally important. I'd love to be able to talk to existing OStatus groups on GS and elsewhere without some fundamental software incompatibility preventing that.

Show threadKevin MarksMay 4, 2017
@deadsuperhero @Gargron @bea hashtags were originally thought of as groups, from the irc and Jaiku precedents. Old discussion here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microblogging-nanoformats and https://indieweb.org/microsyntax
If you want to avoid reusing punctuation, but make it readily typeable there aren't many options ~ maybe? Or go with the 👥 emoji. Or 💞 perhaps. Emoji are now easier to type than punctuation for most users.
Show threadFrankie SaxxMay 4, 2017

@kevinmarks @deadsuperhero @Gargron @bea

Hashtags do function as de facto groups on Twitter also, like they do here, if you filter to display just posts with the tag.

Group implementation for the use case here, with admin groups and meta discussion, would also need a way to restrict distribution, maybe a subscribers-only visibility level, if the purpose is to stop flooding everyone on the fediverse with these discussions.

Show threadINACTIVEMay 4, 2017

@frankiesaxx @kevinmarks @Gargron @bea The way I see it, hashtags could be thought of as a type of unmoderated ad-hoc group. The piftall is that if you follow / subscribe to a hashtag locally, you're only going to see tagged content from the people your instance is connected to.

An actual groups fixture, in most federated solutions, is a post relay between all subscribers.

Show threadHallå Kitteh
@deadsuperhero @gargron @kevinmarks @frankiesaxx @bea Yes. There is basically nothing separating it from the concept of a mailing list.
May 5, 2017 at 8:00amWeb