hellllooo friends! time for another announcement!

https://admins.town/

is a real thing now. it's an instance (not mine) where admins are gonna talk about admin shit.

if you're an admin join up!

if you're interested in what admins are up to i guess you can also join up or follow us or use a tool to read off the public feed or gosh i dunno, probably lots of options

this is a direct response to calls for greater insight/transparency into admin discussions. work is ongoing!

feel free to boost

@bea but i am an admin doing admin things here, not sure why i'd need an alt in a federated network :P
@Gargron EUGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't
@bea would've been a prime use case for !groups though
@Gargron this is happening exactly because we don't have groups. if we get them it will probably disappear
@bea +1 for groups, -1 for the stupid bangtag syntax though. need some alternative idea of how to address toots to the groups that doesn't involve butchering human-used punctuation

@Gargron @bea It's actually not that bad of a convention; it kind of aligns with how hashtags themselves are used in microblogging apps.

Besides which, maintaining cross-platform compatibility for OStatus groups is kind of fundamentally important. I'd love to be able to talk to existing OStatus groups on GS and elsewhere without some fundamental software incompatibility preventing that.

@deadsuperhero @Gargron @bea Groups aren't part of OStatus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That said, the tagging functionality of the newer federated specs should smooth over any convention issues between implementations and allow them to be rendered as each site would expect them. I look forward to groups without the bang syntax, too.

@wilkie @Gargron @bea

That's fair, but that's also the convention almost every OStatus web app has followed when it comes to implementing group fixtures. I hate to make any kind of appeal to tradition, but personally I see nothing wrong with using ! to declare an array of groups one is subscribed to, in the same way that one uses @ to show the array of your contacts.

@wilkie @Gargron @bea @deadsuperhero does not using the ! mean groups from Mastodon & groups from GS servers would be inaccessible to each other? Or would Mastodon do some back end parsing to change the syntax depending on which servers group messages are going to/coming from? (There are established GS groups I'd like to follow but can't, like a !coffee group. :)