Matt Cropp 🌲🌲Apr 30, 2017

Seeing all the end-of-month #Patreon chatter, I'm wondering how close we are to a #UserOwned alternative?

The model is absolutely a key piece of the future of support for creative endeavors, but with $47.1MM in #Unicorn-hopeful VC to pay off, it's rate of #extraction can be expected to ramp up in coming years. I know #Gratipay seems like it has some of the pieces (but is still a ways off); anyone aware of other promising #platformcoop versions?

@ntnsndr @KevinCarson1 @mayel

Show threadPolly KraisusMay 1, 2017
@mattcropp @ntnsndr @KevinCarson1 @mayel not exactly sure what you are talking about, but is #liberapay of any relevance here, by any chance?
Show threadMatt Cropp 🌲🌲May 1, 2017
@stragu That indeed looks promising, though it looks to have the same issue taking on the #Patreon niche as #Gratipay: anonymizing contributors. Patrons oft like to be recognized.
Show threadNathan Schneider
@mattcropp @stragu #librapay is a fork of #Gratipay. One reason they don't work for co-ops is they don't (or at least Gratipay doesn't) tell you who your contributors are and there's no open accounting, as in OpenCollective.
May 1, 2017 at 2:43amWeb
Show threadLiberapay (dead account)May 2, 2017

@ntnsndr Actually, we've recently added an open invoice system for transparent accounting, but it's not finished yet and it's only enabled for our own use. See https://github.com/liberapay/liberapay.com/issues/505

Regarding anonymity, we're still planning to relax it, but maybe not as much as you want. If knowing who a payment comes from is a strict requirement, then that payment is probably not a donation.

@mattcropp @stragu

Show threadNathan SchneiderMay 2, 2017
@Liberapay @mattcropp @stragu No, it's true—we're not looking for donation systems, we're looking for systems of accountable and transparent membership.