Keep having conversations with Americans that think America is socialist, because taxes pay for roads, etc.

It's depressing the ignorance.

Of course part of this is Sanders' fault, for muddying the definition, but if kids actually learned basic facts about government they'd be able to spot that muddying and decide how it makes them feel.

Now Americans think that Obamacare is socialism, and the military.

It's just messed up.

@TimeSnow think attitude predates Sanders by some years, USA folk on Usenet in 1990s were ranting about similar stuff. Some give impression they do not want any public sector" only what the market and/or faith groups provide, yet even claim modern European Christians are "left wing", even Christian democrats because of the Catholic social teaching (+conspiracy theories current Pope is "Communist")