So hey! For the record: in situations where you have a set of workstations and a set of BYOD laptops/smartphones/PDAs/whatever is new this years?

Do yourself a favor:

Set up TWO subnets. They can be visible to each other if that's what you really want, but make it so that the workstations have long or static leases, and the BYOD idiocy has short leases.

Please, please, please, please, please do NOT issue short leases [>24h] to everything on the network because you're "running out of IPs"

That is not a game you want to be playing, and it will make me very sad.

@munin just use IPv6 :troll:

@lojikil Honestly?

That would make this situation better. I haven't even mentioned the NAT situation.

@munin I mean, it certainly would fix the DHCP situation, and you could shunt of people who don't pass certain checks into the "these are bad people" CIDR and enforce segmentation elsewhere...

@lojikil Oh no - I'm talking about how various [external] locations, of which there are many, are all NATted. And may or may not have unique IPs behind the NAT.

They have external locations NATted to their corporate network.

@munin yup, I've seen that too, sadly. I'm sorry for your loss... of sanity.
@lojikil The rye is helping.
@munin you've my personal email; hit me up if you end up needing something stronger...
@munin I truly love that Masto's 500 char limit means you can write up a reasonable and educational explanation of a topic without needing 25 toots (and yet that 500 char limit also prevents you from writing an exhaustive expose on the topic, which would be better received on your long-form blog).
@dnlongen It is -very- nice that I can develop a couple thoughts without having to be constrained into sticking them into tiny chunks. A good size paragraph is just about right to develop a thesis and provide a couple details.
@munin That's a great example of solving the wrong problem and causing a worse one.