the somewhat bizarre thing about being your own ISP is that everything actually works?

okay I got a lot of questions:

I run a hobbyist network (half rack colo / 1 Gbps) in the westin building exchange in seattle (this basically requires free time and money)

the network is technically a tier 3 ISP; we have one transit provider (for now) but peer directly with a lot of networks via the seattle internet exchange

we moved to a house that has line of sight to WBX and have a wireless link

this doesn't make economic sense; I do it because it's a fun and interesting hobby

@ilianaw 0 questions in that ;)
@ilianaw None of those are questions, but it sounds awesome

@shadowfacts "I received a few questions"

is that better

@ilianaw Ah, that makes much more sense. Anyway, it sounds really neat
@ilianaw what I don't get is how line of sight is line of sight. Do you rent space on top of the building to shove an aerial?

@lcm we have an antenna pointed awkwardly out a window on another floor, and we pay for that colocation space as well

I am honestly surprised any of it works at all

@ilianaw oh christ, literally out of the window? I was going to ask if that was the case as a joke. Doesn't that wreck havoc with cooling etc?

@lcm probably. the suite our rack is in has all the windows covered for that reason.

the window faces northwest, so never any direct sunlight through there I suppose?

@ilianaw you are your own ISP? is it a wisp?
@Duncan yes, but only technically, because I am the only wireless customer
@ilianaw i am confused

@Duncan oh, sorry, it took me 40 minutes to get that notification, you might have already read that

federation is fun

@ilianaw major lag. I was curious because I live in a rural place and my connectivity options suck.

@Duncan your options for that are usually running a series of wireless repeaters to a place with a decent upstream, or trenching your own fiber

neither is usually economically sensible (especially the latter) unless you can basically get the entire neighborhood / area to join in

@Duncan getting a transit provider and doing BGP is the easy part. it's *getting* there that's the problem.
@ilianaw isn't there always someone upstream from you, though?

.@therealklanni sure, unless you're tier 1 (and even then it's handwavy). but the key differences from a commercial ISP:

especially in a place like seattle, you can directly connect to networks that carry a lot of bandwidth (CDNs, streaming services, etc.) -- and basically talk to them for free (the one-time cost of your SIX port, in this case)

when you contract with a transit provider, you're often getting *guaranteed* speeds, not just an arbitrary limit

@ilianaw How does one become their own ISP?
@deadsuperhero boredom, time, money, living in a city with a large internet exchange point, having line of sight to the building where it lives