Eugen RochkoSep 19, 2017
Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Pavel Durov’s ‘Trump logic’ https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/18/signal-moxie-marlinspike-techcrunch-disrupt-sf-2017-telegram/
Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Pavel Durov’s ‘Trump logic’

Onstage at TechCrunch Disrupt SF 2017, Signal's at times elusive privacy revolutionary Moxie Marlinspike spoke modestly about how his secure text message app..

Show threadEugen Rochko
Telegram is a shady app. They rolled their own crypto, put up a "challenge" to break it with conditions that would've made most crypto unbreakable; most importantly, they do not even encrypt anything by default
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Show threadpasqui023Sep 19, 2017
@Gargron what would be a user friendly, encrypted chat app?
Show threadEugen RochkoSep 19, 2017
@pasqui023 Wire seems ok
Show threadMasoud AbkenarSep 19, 2017
@Gargron What is your opinion about Jabber with the new OMEMO encryption scheme? I test Conversations on Android and it is quite good.
Show threadEugen RochkoSep 19, 2017
@masoud OMEMO is good and I believe it powers most good e2e apps now. Conversations, Signal, WhatsApp, Wire
Show threadMasoud AbkenarSep 19, 2017
@Gargron They are all based on Double Ratchet Algorithm. But the big difference of Jabber (aka XMPP) to all the rest is its decentralization. I haven't yet given up on a decentralized messaging platform, although I know that it's very hard to do right.
Show threadEugen RochkoSep 19, 2017
@masoud Matrix might also interest you
Show thread🔌💘🐶Sep 19, 2017
@Gargron @pasqui023 How does The Wire sticker ecosystem compare to Telegram?
Show threadpasqui023Sep 19, 2017
@Gargron @USBloveDog I think last time I used it,about 1 year ago,it didn't have stickers
Show thread🅰️zuroluSep 19, 2017
@pasqui023 @Gargron Matrix using riot as a client I think.
Show threadploumSep 19, 2017
@pasqui023 @Gargron : Signal, which is also a nice SMS app !
Show threadBogoltSep 20, 2017
@pasqui023 @Gargron I think Tox is the best there. The only decentralized solution, so no one can disable you account for whatever reason.
Show threadBileSep 19, 2017
@Gargron privately funded by two exceptionally rich people 🤔🤔🤔
Show threadTassoSep 19, 2017
@Gargron @USBloveDog and their api doesn't allow encryption at all. So if Matrix bridges wanted e2e encryption with telegram, that'd be impossible.
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Show threadTassoSep 19, 2017
@Gargron @USBloveDog @gooz At least telegram /has/ encryption at all. Telegram is *the* messaging app everyone uses is Iran. At least they aren't using Whatsapp nonsense
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20.3K Pings, 234 Following, 186 Followers · I'm a cybernetic dog who loves USB ports. Unnutered, so I only fit USB type A ports and not these fashionable type C fad ports. All those unfixed hormones mean I'm a huge asshole with a lovely beard: I am what happens when you do not spay and neuter your pets. Profile gif by other_fox http://s162.photobucket.com/user/other_fox/media/usbhumpdog.gif.html Turn off repeats and you'll be much happier.