Mastodon 101: A "Subtoot" is a toot written by someone currently travelling in a subway. They are usually used to praise the effects of good public transit infrastructure.

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@elomatreb We don't have GSM in our deep nuclear bunker dubbing as subway. ๐Ÿค”
@elomatreb waaait, how do i italicize?

@nonlinear It's just Unicode trickery, math characters

http://qaz.wtf/u/convert.cgi?text=Hello+there

@tbm @nonlinear There used to be a way to inject CSS (classes at least) into toot contents, but people abused it to make obnoxious spinning text

@elomatreb @tbm oh no you have to have rules. Standards. Otherwise you open the gates of hell. I was thinking markdown and open graph. It's safe and proper.

Ok, maybe markdown MINUS link (links cannot be masked by text, I mean, but appear as urls or open graph).

@nonlinear @tbm Markdown specifically was discussed previously in the context of Mastodon, I don't know what the final verdict was though.

I think some GNU Social implementations offer styling like italics, but I don't know if they are understood by Mastodon

@elomatreb @tbm markdown is legit... If you know the secret code, you use it. If not, no biggie.

500 characters beg for better formatting.

Speaking as a UI designer, the only part of markdown I'd leave off is links. No [link text](url). Coz major potential for abuse (ppl using link text as one that in fact points to another). I'm sure that are safe workarounds around there.

@nonlinear I'm a little torn on allowing e.g. headings, and e.g. the choice of which extensions to allow (syntax highlighting code blocks, tables, ...)

@elomatreb I wouldn't mind on that... If people get annoying, within their toot, people abandon them. Like when they do with annoying content. People behave.

The goal is to extend capabilities' while keeping security. Or sanity.

I don't see why not markdown. I'd love to organize my toots like idea cards, more formalized.

@nonlinear I'd be fine with it, but I'm not sure I'd use it much.

Some of the previous discussions on this subject (Actually still active): https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/853

@elomatreb they're coming to same conclusion, markdown minus link syntax (that could be used for phishing).
@elomatreb @tbm no css inject per user (this is CRAZY insecure! And ugly), and another cool stuff is open graph... Like when twitter and Facebook replace link with card (with title, description, image). That's WAY more informative than plain links.
@nonlinear IIRC it wasn't full CSS injection, you could only select classes that would be applied (and since Mastodon has a spinning-text class for some reason, you could make your toots spin)

@elomatreb that's kinda the whole point of markdown, eh? Rich text on plain text, best of both worlds?

Style should be defined top down... Either per tool (like now), per instance (nice touch) or per user, from presets (still top down). Anything else is opening a can of worms.

@elomatreb but you gotta separate styling from formatting.

Formatting is legit and useful. Styling is, hard.

@elomatreb Unless they're subtooting in NYC, in which case it's usually to complain about terrible public transit infrastructure.
@sanspoint Any subway system is better than no subway system, coming from someone living in a village with exactly 3 buses per day
@elomatreb Perhaps. Then again, I've literally had days where it would have been as fast to walk to work as it was to take the subway. Well, usually those days involve switching from the subway to a cab.

occasionally, in contemporary colloquial usage, this is taken to refer to a toot made from a train, more generally, or from a bus line which travels at least partially underground....

@elomatreb https://mastodon.mit.edu/media/sfXg0M6vravLmqKFld4

@elomatreb this is a bustoot, hello, I am on a bus because it showed up before I walked to the subway

@elomatreb The 2 cement blocks in the photo are neatly stored out of pedestriansโ€™ way in the High St. station at the moment, but the next time it rains heavily, theyโ€™ll be deftly placed in a deep puddle so riders can reach the stairs without getting their feet wet.

#NYC #subway #infrastructure
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