Heh, the degeneration from "considered intellectual discussion expanded to 500 chars" to "blatant shitposting" in my timeline as the rest of infosec Twitter got here is marked over the last two days
@puellavulnerata Well, that was pretty inevitable. As were the DROP TABLE jokes.
@puellavulnerata It's like how a dog has to piss on something in order to claim it.
@puellavulnerata I made this reference before realizing that mastodon.social seems to be primarily populated by furries. I regret nothing.
@puellavulnerata for a second I was like "the shitposting was always here" and then I realized you're not actually on mastodon's instance
@puellavulnerata But are you really surprised? I mean ffs, infosec twitter is just shitposts and tech.
@puellavulnerata Thinking about it, this might be why people don't take infosec people seriously, we're too jaded and love to shitpost way too god damn much for most people.
@aoighost we do seem to be a bunch of cynical shitposting assholes
@puellavulnerata @aoighost Might be one of the reasons I gravitated towards you fine, shitposting folks.
@aoighost @puellavulnerata you say cynical sh*tposting as$hole like it's a bad thing :p
@aoighost @puellavulnerata Also, explaining very complex concepts simply isn't our strong suit. "Threat model" is great for making eyes go glassy.
@drwho Explaining hard concepts to a general audience is a hard problem; one can certainly do it poorly, but can anybody do it well?

@enkiv2 "Well?" I don't know. Subjective criterion.

What I do know is that taking very complex stuff and teaching it over time (classes, skillshares, stuff like that), if done carefully, can present hard concepts in an easier to understand and remember way.

@drwho Absolutely.

By "well" I mean "as well as we would like", for some very general value of "we".

@enkiv2 Time-based and patience. Time-based and patience.

Asking the people who "get it" to help their peers who're having trouble also helps; I've done that to good effect in the past.

Engagement is key.

@drwho What I'm saying is that the ceiling on efficient communication of novel ideas is frustratingly low. There's nobody who can effectively explain the whole content of a textbook in a tweet, for instance. All gains in communication skill are essentially incremental, beyond basic literacy.
@enkiv2 That is a succinct way of putting it. <writes that down>
@aoighost @puellavulnerata Which kinda makes sense. Security is neither easy nor simple. It's not so much learning it as it breaks your brain in certain ways, and you either do it, or you don't do it.