Did you know that Microsoft applied for a permit for a warehouse in southern Sweden - and once they had built the "warehouse" they declared they were going to host a datacenter there with diesel backup generators?

I mean, we hear this happening all the time and so let's hate on data centers, right?

The difference is that this is Sweden, and we don't accept that shit. They were not allowed to run their diesel generators, had to purchase battery power instead and in the end they closed the data center down since they couldn't win this fight.

That's how you deal with it.

(They are now using other datacenters in other locations in Sweden, fully compliant with the laws, with renewable energy and not using water for cooling as far as I can see)

@troed woah! you mean you win by fighting? i know this sounds like sarcasm but here in america this concept is genuinely foreign to us.
@0x00string
We won with bureaucracy.
They faught the law and the law won @troed
@_nibbles @troed idk if its language barrier or otherwise but... like really you didnt get what i meant?

@0x00string
Iam saying that there was no fight (legal).

@troed

@_nibbles @troed i am saying that you are misunderstanding what i mean by fight and if you truly believe there was none then you won nothing and should expect to enjoy the same kind of depraved mania we are currently mired in here.

you fought. stop pretending you didnt. if you hadnt, you would not have prevailed. people fought.

we have laws too and these villains are allowed to flaunt them by people who think themselves good but who are actually just lazy cowards.

you fought. you won. stop belittling it.

@0x00string @_nibbles @troed

Outside of the US there are a number of countries where the law is followed and that’s that. No heroics necessary to uphold what was already agreed upon.

@albertcardona @_nibbles @troed i would like to believe that but i am uncultured and so this crumbling state is the only one im really familiar with, and here, people do not follow the law and are not made to.

if your country, if the people like in mine would not enforce the law, would the people there follow it still?

its wild, in a time like this, for people to be sitting and arguing that this is literally all they are doing, that their perfect dreams are holding strong, while the wolves are already devouring people and looking for more.

its astounding to me how safe you seem to feel - like you imagine germany from the past is the threat and not the place im typing from.

imagining that no one else is doing anything to ward these things off because you yourself arent feels easily dismissed even without looking at your profile to discern where youre from and doing even a few minutes research.

i sure hope this all works out, but its already pretty locked in as not going to.