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Neil Brown 1d ago

Well, Mullvad's fall from grace was certainly fast. And I seem to recall that Proton had a moment too, a while back.

What's the current go-to recommendation for VPNs/proxies, for people who don't want to run their own?

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Hannes Deeken 1d ago

@neil I'm using tailscale, pretty happy with them.

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taavi

1d ago

@Glenlivet @neil that Tailscale feature is sadly a Mullvad reseller

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Hannes Deeken 1d ago

@taavi @neil please, what?

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Hannes Deeken 1d ago

@taavi @neil do you have a source for that?

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taavi

1d ago

@Glenlivet @neil https://tailscale.com/mullvad

Surf the Web Privately with Mullvad's Global Network + Tailscale

Understand how to securely and privately browse the web with Tailscale and Mullvad. Tailscale has partnered with Mullvad to make its global network of VPN servers available for users.

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Hannes Deeken 1d ago

@taavi @neil you should read what they write. They are partnering with Mullvad to use their endpoints as exit nodes, that's all.

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Stĳn van Drongelen 1d ago

@Glenlivet @taavi @neil Money paid to Tailscale will partially go to Mullvad (to compensate for using their nodes), which will then partially go to the cofounder of Mullvad (as remuneration), who then funds a fascist party.

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Hannes Deeken 1d ago

@stiiin @taavi @neil

@tailscale what do you say to that?

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Stĳn van Drongelen

@Glenlivet @taavi @neil @tailscale I think it's not very socially responsible of Tailscale to keep Mullvad as a partner at this point.

Whether that "should" disqualify Tailscale as a vendor for individual people is up to them to decide. For a lot of personal digital infrastructure, like VPN or email, it's a choice between evils anyway.