GrapheneOS6d ago

Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
Leave a 1 star review for Volkswagen's apps on the Play Store asking them to stop banning GrapheneOS. Explain it's a far more secure operating system and fully possible for them to verify the hardware, OS and their app on it if they insist on doing it. It's far more secure than anything they allow.
Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
Google has misled companies about what the Play Integrity API provides. It doesn't genuinely enforce having a secure device or legitimate app, it only pretends to. It leaves huge security holes open. It enforces Google's business interests and bans having a reasonably secure device with GrapheneOS.
Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago

Most companies are unlikely to stop using the Play Integrity API but most are willing to start permitting GrapheneOS via hardware attestation with enough pressure.

In addition to every user of their app on GrapheneOS leaving a 1 star review on the Play Store, multiple other steps can be taken too.

Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
Every GrapheneOS user with one of their cars using the app should file a customer support request. Keep answering them and countering the template responses. Escalate the request higher up. Tell them you want money back for the vehicle due to reduced functionality after the fact and insist on it.
Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
They can trivially stop enforcing the anti-security and anti-competitive Play Integrity API or easily add hardware-based verification of GrapheneOS. Link to https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide in the customer support request, but don't add any links to Play Store reviews to avoid filtering.
GrapheneOS attestation compatibility guide

Guide on using remote attestation in a way that's compatible with GrapheneOS.

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Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
A bunch of apps have added explicit support for GrapheneOS due to pressure from our users. Our userbase is rapidly growing and we'll gain the ability to apply massive pressure to companies doing this. We plan to ship a feature for our Info app for people to opt-in to getting asked for their help.
Show threadflotmjor938382

@GrapheneOS

I didnt understand what you meant by the opt in feature you explained. Do you care to explain more in depth what you meant?

With kind regards

Jun 24 at 10:24pmWeb
Show threadGrapheneOS6d ago
@flotmjor938382 Our Info app will have toggles to opt-in to receiving different kinds of requests for help from us such as requests for help testing certain apps, carriers, etc. We could make it so people can opt-in to receiving a request for help testing if their carrier is on a list of carriers we need help testing with through the Info app checking if it's relevant to them. Similarly, it could detect if people can help with testing an app or pressuring the app devs to unban GrapheneOS.
Show threadflotmjor9383825d ago

@GrapheneOS

I see, sounds like an good idea if the resources are their.
Thank you for the reply.