GrapheneOS4d ago

Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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I think you might have answered this before, but is there any way to make your OS look different to applications to circumvent the ban?
Jun 24 at 6:45pmWeb
Show threadGrapheneOS4d ago
@zm No, there's no feasible way to do that. They're mostly using the Play Integrity API to ban using anything not certified by Google. It's highly resistant to bypassing the checks at scale and uses hardware-based attestation when available. Strong integrity level fully requires hardware-based attestation which can't be spoofed but rather would require leaked keys which can be revoked after detecting it via fingerprinting. The currently more common device integrity level partially requires it.
Show threadGrapheneOS4d ago
@zm We do regularly work around apps incompatible with our privacy and security protections or very rare cases where apps have specifically banned GrapheneOS. We can't realistically do anything about the Play Integrity API device and strong integrity levels from technical angle. It would be very fragile and would keep breaking even if they didn't directly stop us doing it, but they would since they directly detect and counter spoofing that's being done at scale.
Show threadbluGill4d ago

@zm

@GrapheneOS

Everything involves a lawyer and lobbiests. Does google's APIs count as a monopoly in your country - that is the first place I would look. However you are looking at large lawyer bills to prove it.