Christine Lemmer-Webber
If your response to "an activity we all could easily just not do which is accelerating the death of our habitable planet" is "well there is a version of this where in theory it doesn't cook us so fast, I'm just not doing it" you might want to reconsider your actions
Jun 23 at 11:57amWeb
Show threadChristine Lemmer-Webber1d ago

Is this about AI usage? Or is this about meat consumption?

Yes.

Show threadChristine Lemmer-Webber1d ago

Friends, it has never been easier to be vegetarian. You could even go mostly vegetarian. Vegetarian food is everywhere and you don't even need to give up most of the flavors you love. This is very different than when I first became vegetarian approx a couple decades ago.

Friends, it has never been easier to not voluntarily use datacenter-hosted genAI. You can just... not!

Show threadLa Guiri1d ago
@cwebber I really liked the concept of "vegan who eats [exception]". I don't need to be perfect. I just have to not eat animal products today. Just not make it central. And so on.
Show threadtyzbit1d ago

@laguiri @cwebber a great point. even if you change nothing about your diet except the rate at which you consume meat: congratulations, you have still made things measurably better.

better always counts. progress over perfection.

Show threadBlake C. Stacey1d ago
@tyzbit @laguiri @cwebber The first dietary restriction I tried for myself was eating mammal no more than once a week. This was to cover contingencies like the only lunch option being the university cafeteria and the only appetizing thing there being the pepperoni pizza.
Show threadtyzbit1d ago

@bstacey @laguiri @cwebber it requires a level of privilege that is not universal to be able to exclude meat (or make your diet healthier, for example). that's not any individual person's fault and doing the best you can given the circumstances is enough. this is usually said in negative contexts but here it is positive:

no snowflake blames itself for the avalanche and yet it still occurs

just make sure you're being honest with yourself. choosing yourself over the environment isn't inherently selfish, but never choosing the environment at all is.

Show threadDarwin Woodka1d ago

@laguiri @cwebber

We eat chicken turkey or fish at home, go out if we want a burger. Very rarely I'll get a steak salad or something. There's just no need to eat a lot of meat, especially red meat.

Show threadMedea Vanamonde 🏳️‍⚧️1d ago

@cwebber
Oh my goddess!
We are almost diet twins!
Including the time span.

There have been mang advances in the last quarter century.

Before that it was just tofu, tempe seitan and Rice milk ice cream.

Before my father died I got him to eat plant based shrimp!

That 19 years ago

Show threadImmy1d ago

@cwebber Animal products of all kinds cause massive human and animal suffering, vast environmental harm and line the pockets of some of the worst scumbags imaginable, all the while not being particularly good for humans in the first place.

While I understand that some people won’t be able to go vegan for one reason or another, whether that be health conditions, lack of access or eating restrictions, few personal actions can have more impact than going vegan, and for many people the cost of that action is just convenience and taste.

Show threadRyan Lounsbury1d ago
@cwebber My wife and I have been slowly removing animal products from our diets. We have a ways to go but we are making progress. :)
Show threadgriff (tripp) ferrell @ sharkey.world1d ago
@cwebber

Double, yes
Show threadDamien1d ago
@cwebber or capitalism? "There's a way for me to make a shitton of money while killing the planet. But doing it slower than we really could, so you should thank me".
Show threadElena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂1d ago
@cwebber there has never been a better time to revolt against AI data centers... (I've been a vegetarian borderline vegan since the age of 14)
Show threadKid Mania1d ago
@cwebber
"The only value of this world lay in its power - at certain times - to suggest another world."
- Thomas Ligotti