Tuta5d ago

Next Monday, the EU decides on Chat Control 2.0. Will they let the Trojan Horse through the gate and let Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn etc continue to scan all your messages?

We at Tuta say NO.

❌ No scanning
❌ No mass surveillance
❌ No age verification

Instead we fight for:

✅ Encryption
✅ Privacy
✅ Open Source

And so should the EU. Call your local representatives! 🥊

Privacy is not negotiable. Speak up now. ✊ #Privacy

Show threadTuta5d ago
Curious if your emails are safe? Check here which providers scan your data:
👉 https://tuta.com/blog/voluntary-scanning-google-microsoft
Gmail, Microsoft, Meta, LinkedIn: They already scan your messages - voluntarily! | Tuta

Voluntary Chat Control is already in place since 2021, named Regulation (EU) 2021/1232. Similar to scanning obligations in the UK and the USA, this regulation allows Big Tech to scan all your data. But what do services scan based on this regulation, do they also scan old messages, and what does this mean for data protection and privacy? A deep dive.

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Show threadAleksei 🇪🇪5d ago

@Tutanota "So at Tuta, your data will remain safe."

If only. Our outgoing emails still hit Microsoft, Google, and other Big Tech servers because doctors, lawyers, and other recipients of sensitive information use them. Even voluntary scans suck.

Show threadCrisper
@placebo @Tutanota you are right, but you have a choice if you want to sent email to them.
What the EU wants to do is force scanning on email and chat.
And doctors offices etc should not use big tech.
Jun 23 at 8:41amWeb
Show threadAleksei 🇪🇪5d ago

@Crisper @Tutanota I’d argue that’s an illusion of choice because both doctors and lawyers can be booked months in advance and/or can be quite expensive, so email may be the only form of communication. That includes many other organizations, some of which might not even exist in your area for face-to-face contact.

Regarding your last point: perhaps there should be regulations that prohibit them from using insecure platforms such as gmail. Idk if the tech sovereignty package touches this topic.

Show threadAlex Ander5d ago
@placebo @Crisper @Tutanota shouldn't be forcing big tech to act responsibly rather then forcing doctors?
Show threadCrisper5d ago
@XandAl @placebo @Tutanota yes but they wont. And with chatcontrol they email providers, chat providers etc will be forced to can our private communication.
Show threadAlex Ander5d ago
@Crisper @placebo @Tutanota they don't because we give up on forcing them to behave correctly, and instead we move focus on easier targets like doctors. That is why nothing ever changes. We are the ones that allow them to get away with it.
Show threadAleksei 🇪🇪5d ago
@XandAl @Crisper @Tutanota I don't see why we should choose between the two; that's a false dichotomy. Big Tech should be regulated, but those who handle sensitive information should do so in a safe and responsible manner, because regardless of how well we regulate US companies, the US government can and will use this information in its own interests.
Show threadCrisper5d ago
@placebo @XandAl @Tutanota you are absolutely right, big tech should be regulated. But please tell me who in the US goverment would do that ? The president is using big tech in his trade wars, closing accounts if people he does not like.
And the intelligence services is also getting their data from big tech, why else did facebook remove the encryption on Messenger and Instagram?
What Tuta is fighting is EU law.
Show threadCrisper5d ago
@XandAl @placebo @Tutanota yeah but who in the us goverment will force them?
Show threadTina H5d ago

@Crisper @placebo @Tutanota To "scan" unencrypted, plaintext e-mail is rather like kicking in an open door tho.

Chat, encrypted chat, is something else entirely. Unencrypted chat ... if in plaintext there is nothing to "scan"

Show threadCrisper5d ago
@tina @placebo @Tutanota why do you thing tuta is fighting? If the EU forces providers of encrypted chat, mail etc ro build in a backdoor then its their forever, and the service is not secure, a backdoor cannot be created only for governments to spy on you.
Show threadTina H4d ago

@Crisper @placebo @Tutanota There IS no "encrypted mail" (well, only for one hop)

Kudos to them for fighting the idiocy, but let's focus.