Omg, so much trouble with our #bosh washing machine 8 series for 1200 euro.. sometimes it doesnt start, you have to wait 10 minutes before it actually shows a display, out of warranty it fails e20-61 heating problem. 700 euro to repair.wrf .. #german cars and devices really became crap. Most frustrating is that retarted people still think they buy high end lol. 😅