But, to the point of force, right down to the "and then they would arrest you" can someone explain *why* the name came down? Why doesn't Trump just ignore the court?

The court orders the name must come down. Great. Very funny.

But why listen. Why don't we get "oh OK I'll take it down" but then nothing happens?

How does the power flow?

That seems a little important to me maybe.

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@futurebird I agree that this is an important question - because yes, if he could just do his usual "fuck you, try to stop me!" thing, he would have, which implies that he doesn't have the power to resist this court order.

- whic obviously begs the question: Where *does* his actual power end? Since lawsuits etc. keep stopping his initiatives, he's certainly not as powerful as he thinks & opposition should be delineating those borders & then hammering on them.

@jwcph

A lot of people are despondent. Saying things like "he will cancel the election"

How exactly? Will he put a gun to Gov. Hochul of NY's head? (and at least 20 other governors?)

"he will do marshal law"

They tried that in MN. They don't have the man power to do it nationwide. They don't even have enough to take NYC, that's why ICE has not cracked down here like in MN.

Middle class people throwing fits works.

@jwcph

I don't like it when people are despondent and defeated since that's the ONLY way that these clowns win in the long term. If we just give up and believe that an election could be canceled. Or stay in our houses if ICE shows up and tries to shut down every street.

MN saved us all really. It's an illustration of the limits.

@futurebird @jwcph

I forget who keeps pointing this out--Thom Hartmann? Paul Krugman? Whoever, it's true that a stolen election needs to be plausible. Bush2 could only steal his election because it was actually close (after millions of people were disenfranchised in the red states, of course). This one won't be close by any measure. Flagrantly stealing it might be enough to rouse the white middle class from its privileged slumber.

@Uair @jwcph

I've been putting up signs in the park that say "Pollinator Sanctuary Do Not Mow" in a small ragged area of my mostly ignored inner city park. It's working. If there are a lot of people who really love the idea of the wildflowers being mowed someone might find out that the signs aren't real. But I can do it because I care the most about this issue, (and I want to think because I'm right about it being better for the park.)

This is how a lot of power works.

@Uair @jwcph

The longer the signs stay up the more real they become.

Maybe in twenty years a "Pollinator Sanctuary" will be a real thing. But I'm operating in a vacuum of power and concern. I'm the most active force in this zone, so I can change the rules.

I could have written a proposal to the city and tried to set this up from the other direction. But then the grass would be mowed right now and I'd still be waiting.

@futurebird @Uair @jwcph

We don't call them that here in Ontario but we have them all along the freeways and in parks in Toronto and Montreal, and now I am wondering how 'official' they actually are?

(Don't worry random rogue sign-maker if they aren't official. Secret is safe with me lol)