Lord egeltje 🦔 🇪🇺 
bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/116752805722997877
Actual IT departments. Most places now only have "Big Tech Departments".
Bruno Girin@bert_hubert And on site computer rooms with a few servers in it for core functions.
Mike Spencer
Kobold@bert_hubert THIS! You may end this discussion now 😭
Lennart@bert_hubert Tech Debt Departments 🙃
StarkRG@bert_hubert How about "employing people" and the related "not outsourcing everything"?
Khleedril@bert_hubert Administrators watching out for applications which take up too many machine cycles.
@bert_hubert The red light in the ceiling which comes on to let you know that the server has gone down.
Kevin P. Fleming@bert_hubert Yep... people open IT tickets asking "why does the ADP site say it is down for maintenance".
arclight@bert_hubert Dedicated sysadmins, not devs with root. I went back to doing safety analysis just as SREs were becoming a thing. Beware of jobs where they tack "engineer" on the end for prestige but don't have professional licensure, a code of ethics, and a sense of duty to more than shareholder value.
datarama@arclight @bert_hubert This is one of the reasons I don't call myself an engineer. I'm not. I don't have an engineering degree, and while "engineer" is not a protected title here, I don't particularly want to claim that title when I haven't actually earned it. I also don't like that weird fetishisation of engineers in particular.
I *do* have a computer science degree (which is distinct from the one in software engineering, though the actual content was quite similar, at least back when I studied).
Johan