Today I learned that there is an AI data center being built in the Indian city of Raipur, where I used to live.

Raipur is very hot (Wikipidia says the record high is 47.9C), and I'm pretty sure that doesn't take the effect of humidity into account. It wasn't always this hot, but it gets a little worse each year and that has added up.

The majority of the city's electricity is sourced from coal power plants, and for a variety of reasons its grid is not especially stable, with particularly frequent blackouts during the rainy season. That often means that there's no AC during the most humid and second-hottest time of the year.

It is dry year-round except for those few months of monsoons, when the local groundwater reserves are replenished. Despite the intensity of those storms, there have been progressively worse water shortages every year. I've done a lot of rooftop gardening there to reduce the urban heat island effect, and I've watched all but the most heat and drought-resistant plants wither and die. At times water was being brought in by tanker trucks and there just wasn't enough for both human use and the whole garden.

I find it difficult to imagine a worse place to build an AI data center, and yet here we are. They are going to burn coal to power the AI chips and cooling rigs during heat waves and water shortages that are already literally deadly to the people living there.

This is the sort of thing people are justifying when they talk about how much more productive they are thanks to their spicy corporate autocomplete. The anger that I feel is not some abstract moral high ground, but a visceral reaction to having gone outside in deadly climate conditions to spread an insufficient amount of water on my dying plants.

When they say that AI is the future, this is what that actually means.

RackBank Launches India’s First AI DataCenter Park in Raipur

Get future-ready with RackBank’s AI DataCenter Park in Raipur with 100,000+ GPUs, 80MW capacity, green energy & digital growth. Powering AI startups, enterprises & India’s tech innovation.

@ansuz this is the bit Kim Stanley Robinson left out of Ministry for the Future. When the massive heat death event happens at the beginning of the book, he leaves out that the data centres are humming, cool, and guarded. Running on their own gas powered generators and throwing out heat and pollution.
@otfrom I haven't gotten around to reading that, but if I ever do I'll keep that headcanon in mind

@ansuz @otfrom

So i have not read the book but a lot of my global north peers shared it with me. Correct me if am wrong, but the opening is about a horrible violent massacre in India where the only survivor is the foreigner character?

Putting that aside, it feels weird getting reco-ed a fiction book about doomed future, when as an indian living through this reality, & folks reco in are in us, uk, safe as they close borders, outsource data centers...I hate being a lesson for my "betters".

@ansuz If Sarkar Raj is to be believed, there may be teensy bit of corruption going on.
@sol_hsa I feel like it's probably more complicated than that.

India's IT sector is huge, and to some extent the proliferation of slop across the rest of the world has created pressure to adopt the same technologies to be able to wrangle increasingly unwieldy codebases or keep up with trends.

Once people become dependent on that sort of infrastructure, they can either try to build it out locally or remain dependent on foreign providers.

I don't doubt that somebody is getting a kickback, but it's very likely insignificant next to the level of fraud that AI is driving in the broader global economy. Many more people are complicit than the small number that might have accepted bribes.
@NatureMC
It's truly horrifying. Water for AI or water for people? AI gets the water and the poor can die of thirst. It's probably even the plan of the tech bros to wipe out billions of people and nature. They probably see it as an added benefit of AI.
@ansuz
@ansuz O hell no. India is pritty hot as it is.
@Aryan oh, yea your bio says you're from Dehli.. was it last year that people's air conditioning units started catching on fire from the heat? I had never heard of that happening before
@ansuz @NatureMC The article makes this project sound like it is a great location and the geography perfect. Surely many people realize this is not an idyllic setting and will bring great hardship to those living nearby. It sounds like it is to bring expanded numbers of residents and 3,000 jobs? But the wording of the jobs seems a bit vague as to where the jobs are and what kind of jobs they are. These people will live here. Maybe you can clarify: “Creates 3,000+ direct and indirect jobs while driving AI and data science upskilling”.
@cobalt123 @NatureMC I think the following sentence conveys exactly how much thought they put into it:

> Strategic Raipur location decentralizes India’s digital growth and builds a central AI hub.
@ansuz I really appreciated reading this. I don't think I realized how bad it's already gotten. 💔
@ansuz that’s a thing that’s been constantly baffling me. Not only are we building a ridiculous number of data centers, we’re consistently building them in just incredibly stupid places. Like the newest one near me is in a desert town that we’ve KNOWN is overdrawing their aquifer for 40 years. Yet they just keep sinking more municipal wells and giving more water to corporations for essentially nothing in return. They built a damn bottled water factory too!
@joby @ansuz I think the answer is that datacentre companies care a lot about time-to-market, which means avoiding places with onerous environmental review processes (which can add years to the time it takes to get anything built). It shouldn't be surprising that such places already have degraded environments from previous unsuitable projects!
@pozorvlak @joby agreed, though I might choose an alternative word to replace "onerous" 😅​
@ansuz @joby the £267 million spent on producing the 32,072-page environmental impact statement for the Lower Thames Crossing does seem to require a stronger word, yes.
@pozorvlak @joby I'm not sure how that's relevant to a misguided datacenter project thousands of kilometers away, but alright.
@pozorvlak @ansuz You'd think that they'd also have a line item for like "this is a hot climate so we're paying extra electricity for cooling" or "the municipal water system here could run dry and then we're fucked." I guess they really aren't generally ever considering much of anything beyond the next quarterly reports.
@joby @pozorvlak unethical AND incompetent is one hell of a combination

@ansuz

looking at the "AI riots" square on my bingo card

In its push to become Big Tech’s data center hub, India is overlooking local resistance

Google and Microsoft’s multibillion-dollar projects under construction in India are facing backlash from farmers, while the government offers huge tax relief to foreign companies setting up data centers.

Rest of World
@CorioPsicologia oh, that's fantastic! thanks for sharing!
@ansuz I know her because she interview me as @tunubesecamirio

@CorioPsicologia @tunubesecamirio the article doesn't mention the Raipur datacenter explicitly, but from what I understand the other sites in India are not so different.

I heard about the Visakhapatnam data center announced by Google from a friend who visited the area. Apparently the local AI bros are very happy that computers are going to be replacing unproductive land uses like farming 🙄

From what I understand the locals already had similar problems with electricity outages.

“It’s the same problem in all the world because there are the five same companies in all the world,” Gómez told Rest of World. “So the devil has the same faces for us.”

Thanks for putting this so well.

Our First AI Hub in India, Powered by a $15 Billion Investment

The multi-faceted investment in Visakhapatnam will deploy cutting-edge infrastructure, establish a new international subsea gateway, and deliver gigawatt-scale compute to power services globally.

Google

@CorioPsicologia @ansuz

Thanks for sharing this and truly love the name of your org so much (Your Cloud Dries My River)

Vizag is a coastal city that, when i was in school, known for having fruit juice shops at every nook & corner (when other cities were getting onto sodas & colas trend post liberalisaton of indian economy)

It is also our eastern naval command. And also where i first saw dolphins at sunrise.

And now apparently anointed to host data centers. Who would have dreamed of that.

@ansuz I find it utterly unsurprising that these asshats are going after the historically colonized folks and areas in the efforts to make a few bucks
@myerman it's certainly playing out that way in a few other places in India, but this particular one is being framed as a necessity for the sake of sovereignty.

So we get the worst of both worlds with both foreign AND domestic ecosystem exploitation.