JuneSim63 💚3d ago

"In the Seventies, when my family first moved to this country, we were the target of those comedians. I don’t see a lot of difference between the racist and hostile jokes directed at my family by comedians in the Seventies, and the targeting of the trans community now. If you come from any sort of minority, marginalised background, we’ve all got to have each others’ backs. Prejudice is a contagion.”
Nish Kumar

#Comedy #NishKumar
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/features/nish-kumar-interview-ricky-gervais-jimmy-carr-b2987362.html

Nish Kumar: ‘The safety of minority groups is more important than whether or not Ricky Gervais likes me’

Ahead of a new standup tour, the peppery comedian speaks to Louis Chilton about anger, punching down, and the state of British comedy – and he doesn’t hold back

The Independent
Show threadshem3d ago

@junesim63 it's not correct to call people minorities anymore

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c981g43vmmro

Show threadErin2d ago

@shemjm @junesim63

"Using the right terms can be important, we don't want to insult and offend people but those terms in my view are only a means to an end," said Darren.

"The work to understand what language might be useful is certainly not as hard as the work that’s involved in addressing racism."

(but I suspect your takeaway from this article, if you read it at all, was just ‘white people are outnumbered’)

Show threadshem

@quietewe @junesim63 I just want to ensure that groups that are actually a minority on the global scale get the support they need.

Hungarians for example are a unique group but there are very few of them in the world.

Do they get protections in the UK? Are they included in DEI schemes?

Jun 7 at 3:19pmWeb
Show threadRobin Adams2d ago
@shemjm @quietewe @junesim63 Yes - discrimination on the grounds of national origin is illegal under the Equality Act 2010.
Show threadshem2d ago
@robinadams but can they apply for roles that are advertised for minority groups?
Show threadRobin Adams2d ago
@shemjm I'm pretty sure you're just trolling but: it's illegal in the UK to advertise a job as being for minority groups only.
Show threadshem2d ago

@robinadams www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/05/spy-agencies-repeat-internship-mi5-mi6/

This is a recent case and in the past the police force did similar.

Just wondering if Hungarians would be included in that.

Show threadRobin Adams2d ago

@shemjm OK, I'm surprised, because the bit of training I had about discrimination in recruiting in the UK led me to believe this would not be legal.

Did a bit of research and the police's scheme was found to be not lawful:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/positive-action-in-the-workplace-guidance-for-employers/positive-action-in-the-workplace#what-is-positive-action

You can do things like offer a training scheme for management for women for a limited time if your management is very disproportionately male. Looks like the intelligence services are hoping that internships fall under that.

I would have expected that to be illegal since it is an employment, but IANAL.

The advertisement does say "Other ethnic minority group". I don't know how it would go with the services or in court if somebody tried to argue that being a Magyar, say, was an ethnic minority group.

Show threadshem2d ago
@robinadams well that is good news that the police scheme was found to be unlawful.
Show threadvksxypants2d ago
@shemjm @quietewe @junesim63 Completely meaningless definition. Not a single country or "group" in the world has a population >50%, they're all "global minorities".