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@domi i knew mi liked it when i saw the one like that federated to my instance
@domi We're not allowed to play music of any kind. What's your favourite IETF RFC to read aloud?
@freya @domi boooring (also completely understandable. signed, someone involved in a hobby radio station project that somehow manages to deal with all the paperwork and infrastructure playing music requires)
@taavi @freya @domi as in the copyright for pop music or is music a special case for broadcasting anyway?
@eloy @freya @domi if you want to do that legally, for broadcasting in addition to paying licensing fees to both the artists and producers you need to "legally acquire" the music and the definition of that gets somewhat complex rather quickly. in our case the best (for a DIY project with not that much funding) way is ripping CDs since those have lossless audio and can usually be borrowed from a public library. some (but not all) stores also meet that definition
@eloy @freya @domi our collection has been acquired over the past decade plus a bit and today is over 20,000 disks. with that volume there's quite a bit of tooling to make sure the metadata is usable (for example, there's a check that the publication year is after CDs were literally invented, since people keep confusing the individual release publication time with the first time the work was published in any medium) and we have our own mpd interface in the studio as well
@taavi @eloy @freya still wondering if having artists contribute the music directly to the project could work. does royalty-free/public domain stuff work different in broadcast than on the interwebs? (and does it differ country to country?)

@domi @eloy @freya @taavi songwriter and sampling royalties are separate from recording copyright.

also, user-selected streaming goes through a different royalty scheme than internet radio or real radio, in the us pandora has been fighting rights societies attempting to pay the lower radio royalties.

@domi @eloy @freya @taavi i have tried to research this before, but in each country it's a slightly different mess with each different royalty type possibly covered by multiple different rights societies. these schemes have been built up over hundreds of years as new technologies are introduced.

i have no idea about whether it is possible to disclaim songwriter royalties for radio broadcasts in the us, let alone denmark. this sort of thing can vary, e.g. it is not possible to waive moral rights to copyright in europe, but it is in the united states.

@artemist @domi @eloy @freya yeah, it's wildly different just between FM radio that happens to also broadcast on the internet (simulcasting, as the industry calls it) and internet-only radio in a single country. we do consider a music file received from the artist directly as something we can play as long as we pay for the licenses, but even that goes into fun legal definitions of what exactly "a recording" and "to distribute" mean
@artemist @domi @eloy @freya I guess something from someone who hasn't signed their rights away to a label/distribution company and that did all parts of the production themselves would be fine to play even without the separate general licenses, but frankly I wouldn't dare to try if I was operating a licensed FM broadcast
@artemist @domi @eloy @freya hmm I should do a talk about all of the logistics involved in this at some event, there's a bunch of interesting nerdy detail in it
@taavi @artemist @domi @eloy @freya as an example, Germany has the "fun" complication that it's just assumed that artists have their royalties collected by the one big agency for that, so an artist has to actively opt out and the broadcaster/venue/... has to provide paperwork documenting each track they play and that it is opted out if they don't want to pay the default licensing fees. ("GEMA-Vermutung" is the thing to Google if you speak German)