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SpacehooksIm wondering if she’s paying anything for her teens to go at all or she plans for them to figure it out or something.
Hey, she’s Jenny, Jenny from the block. She used to have a little, now she has a lot. No matter where she goes, she knows where she came from.
We can’t forget where we came from, but we can forget how to relate.
(Yes, I know, lyrics, but fuck this bitch.)
I think the reality is that these admissions and scholarship committees were well aware these were the Lopez offspring. And I imagine they’re counting on getting more money back in future donations and from extra buzz and interest generated if these celebrities actually matriculate.
Exactly, the colleges were competing to get those kids. Maybe J-Lo shows up to events, hit her up for fund-raising, etc., then those Nepo-Babies go on to have lucrative Hollywood careers, and they can cut checks on the regular.
Kinda dumb for rich people to brag about education when education is directly tied to wealth.
Yes, wealth allows for easier education. But it’s also just because wealthy people tend to be more educated because that’s how they got wealthy (Lopez example notwithstanding). They value education and prioritize it.
MacN'CheezusPretty sure the majority of J Lo’s wealth comes from her assets, not education
Yes. That’s the notwithstanding part. That said, I think someone involved in any pop star’s success is smart and educated where it counts.
another dumb take. they just hire actual smart people to analyze the situation and data.
anyone with $$$$$ to throw around can do that.
Yes. But they have to be clever enough to get to the point where they have enough money to throw around. And they have to wise enough to figure out who to hire, who to trust and then how to actually use the information. Of course it’s sometimes dumb luck, I’m sure. But either way, there’s then educated people making good money in the deal, which makes my point as well.
I think you missed the joke there buddy.
Yes, of course she was advised by some pretty smart people. But at the end of the day, she had the product they needed to sell.
I saw it. But plenty of other people have great _ass_ets and don’t _suc_ceed in becoming pop stars.
That doesn’t mean they don’t have any fans. In fact, that’s frequently all they have.
PhoenixDogBro, J-Lo isn’t going to see this comment and come fuck you.
Hey, ya never know.
Some of them might be - they know how to make money off idiots by acting idiotic, but in an very controlled specific way.
They value education and prioritize it.
No, they value the idea of education, and the image of them that it projects.
Honestly, that’s exactly an uneducated view of being educated. It’s really not about image projection, except where it comes to getting a job and / or financing for business. An educated person learns the actual value of real education. An uneducated person sees the educated as elite snobs who have a better life quality; but this better quality of life comes in part from the education.
art is full of nepo babies at the moment and none of them create anything that’s going to be as enduring as the worst michael jackson song.
really dumb take, no offense.
if they were ‘intelligent’ they’d be able to do something besides grift. even a homeless bum could grift in the capitalist system if you gave them a few mil and a 10 minute lecture.
If I said ‘intelligent’, sorry I didn’t mean that. I’m talking about ‘education’. And no I think giving an uneducated person a couple of million would usually lead to them losing it pretty quickly.
Courtney (she/her/they) But it’s also just because wealthy people tend to be more educated because that’s how they got wealthy
Gr8 b8 m8
Yeah, sorry. Just an ounce of truth that bites. I couldn’t help it.
Yea dude didn’t you see on tiktok all the dumb rich people? That is reflective of reality not reality itself! Why didn’t life just make me instant rich I wish I was rich also rich people are a different species who should die.
Tictoc might not be the best way to understand how the world works.
No, Donald Trump is proof that you can just buy yourself a degree. That has nothing to do with being educated and everything to do with higher learning is a scam in the U.S.
Yes some higher learning is a scam, and some is just for the contacts one acquires. Trump, as awful as he is, does seem to be objectively successful, so he’s not really such a great example. I’d love to just blame his inheritance on his success but clearly he has some ability to raise support from idiots. There are certainly higher learning paths that are very real, like medical, engineering, lawl, some humanities, and some commerce.
You’ve obviously never talked to a business major for any length of time. He has confidence, which is what the “Con” in conartist comes from.
And con artists are usually quite well educated. Maybe not in an academic sense, but in an understanding people way. I feel trump isn’t really that tho; his con is being an arrogant bully and the inheritance he started with makes that work enough somehow.
I know con artists in real life. They are not educated. They just speak fast and make up ideas that laymen wont call them out on. When they unknowing try that on someone who has a background in the specific field, they fall apart or get angry. A lot of conartists don’t even know they’re doing it because they’ve been doing it for so long, they’ve conned themselves.
For that to actually be true, Elon musk couldn’t be the richest person on the planet. He’s a massive fucking moron
I’m very not an Elon fan. But didn’t he do theoretical physics at uni? That’s not really a dumb dumb degree.
Do you seriously believe wealth is an indicator of intelligence? We have so many counter examples.
No, it’s an indicator of education levels. But cause and effect there is blurred. Intelligence can be masked by lack of education.
Right, are you seriously trying to tell me Donal fucking Trump got to where he is bcz he is intelligent? Nevermind that pretty much all research points to the opposite.
Well it hurts to suggest it, and he certainly seems like a complete moron. But I really don’t see how his bullying and inheritance could get him as far as it did without some sort of … something.
cRazi_manIt’s a flex. In a society that fools itself into thinking it is a meritocracy, people who buy privilege still think that means they are intrinsically worthy and amazing. Scholarship is thought to portray that the individual is so intelligent (or good at sports) that the university is ready to give up thousands in income to have that candidate.
Scholarships are not meant for the filthy peasants who need them, that would be like giving feebies to the undeserving freeloaders. Instead it should be given to those gifted and capable individuals who could afford an expensive private education.
I think it’s important to distinguish need-based financial aid from merit-based scholarships here, as well as exclude 3rd party scholarships. Need-based financial aid does exist, but only at top universities that don’t need the money and basically pay for everyone to go if their parents make less than $200k a year. Merit-based scholarships are exactly what you’re talking about and very very often go to upper-middle class students as an incentive to attend. I had a rich friend who didn’t want to apply to selective universities so they went to a random state university that offered them this type of scholarship, and I believe didn’t end up having to pay anything for college. At least that was the brag.
That being said, I want to say I’m shocked and appalled JLo would be so out of touch to think this would land, but that’s pretty par for the course for her.
Mom, put your belly away…
It’s mixed here. Awards and scholarships are important for other applications. Her kids should be proud of their academic accomplishments - they can’t choose their mother. That said, hopefully they turn down the funds so another candidate can be funded with it next year.
rustydrdIn academia, scholarships are often treated like academic awards, and academics will often list them in the same section on their CVs.
That’s because they are awarded based on academic performance, not by financial need, for anyone else wondering. Honoring academic performance is the whole point of them.
The fact that the world’s initial reaction is “they don’t deserve it because they don’t need the money” is more of an indictment of the cost of higher education than it is of how scholarships are awarded.
Also, they have “scholarships” based on financial need, they are called Bursaries.
I wouldn’t say honour is the whole point. I think its a way to ensure young people are able to afford the opportunity, and to convince talented students to attend that particular school.
But, yeah, they’re for academic achievement, not academic achievement _and_having poor parents.
Better to fight for free education than against young people getting awarded for doing well in school.
Yes, but social aspects will often still factor in to some extent, and universities also have a lot of freedom in how they select their recipients. I highly doubt that these kids are academically so exceptionally gifted that there aren’t any other kids who would deserve it more and would make better use of this type of support. Scholarships don’t have to function like bursaries, but there’s a fair argument to limit them to kids whose parents aren’t literal millionaires.
BrummbaerThe J-Lo Scholarship of Excellence.
Criteria: Be J-Los kids. Go to college.
Nope. Scholarships are awards based on academic performance. Bursaries are needs-based funding without a performance requirement.
And how did they perform well? Excellent and expensive schools and tutors their entire child life.
There are loads of kids from lower income backgrounds with top academic performance. There are also loads of kids from wealthy backgrounds with terrible academic performance (I worked with some of them while interning at a private school).
You’re definitely right when it comes to demographic averages but you can’t make a definitive determination on an individual basis without knowing someone’s background.
Public universities used to be tuition free. The government funded universities. Now it just underwrites student loans. The wealthy private donors prefer the current system because their donations give them wage slaves. They also get the added benefit of having their name on a university building.
Depends on the scholarship and the university I think. At my university a donor would give the money to the school and specify the conditions of who it would go to, and the school would assign it accordingly.
That said, the school sometimes really stretched the conditions to ensure it went to a favoured student (typically the top students). I benefited from one award that was aimed at students who didn’t originally grow up in <big city where main campus is located>. Donor grew up in a rural area and wanted to support students who had to move away from home to study. The problem though was that I was living with my parents, studying at <newer campus in smaller city>. I was technically eligible but it was completely against the spirit of the award. In addition, I was being given plenty of other scholarships and this one could have gone to literally anyone else at this campus.
Scholarships still generally have a subjective aspect, often in the form of a short essay.
As long as there are subjective measures, there is the opportunity for abuse.
Like, hypothetically if you were an institution you might want wealthy students who’s parents will be inclined to donate large sums of money… and you might recognize that if the parents are in the public eye it would be attractive to them to be able to say thier kids made it on a full ride scholarship (even though thier donations would vastly eclipse any tuition costs). You suddenly have an incentive to use the subjective component of a scholarship as justification to award the scholarship to wealthy donors to ultimately profit.
Not saying that’s necessarily what happened here… Just that the argument of “that’s not what they’re used for” is a little hollow when they’re already not being used for what they’re for.
Anyone remember that whole “athletic scholarship” scandal from a few years back, then Doctor Dre was bragging about his daughter getting into USC on her own…until someone pointed out he just donated millions of dollars to the school…