Thomas Fuchs5d ago

RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116696574148710922

I really truly despise "memes" like the one used in the quoted post because _even back in weather like in idk the 1980s in Europe_ wide-spread air conditioning would have saved thousands of lives in each heat wave.

Protection from both heat and cold should be a non-negotiable human right.

Patrick Quin4d ago
Show threadThomas Fuchs

It's really a form of green-washing.

It wasn't people needing air-conditioning (which is relatively energy-efficient compared to e.g. heating), but policy failures of governments in Europe and elsewhere that have led to this point.

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Show threadFlounder5d ago
@thomasfuchs more trees are great and all but what is the refrigeration cycle slander!?
Show threadThomas Fuchs5d ago
@fl0und3r Europeans (I am one, I should know) have a fetish for being "not as weak" as Americans and therefore think that AC is somehow a luxury that they don't need. It's quite odd because they don't have that inhibition about heating.
Show threadFlounder5d ago

@thomasfuchs what is the prevailing view about heat pumps?

Edit: sorry, I'm not trying to go for a cheap gotcha. As an American, I do think we over-air condition (although a lot of that is just crude humidity control). We also have this wonderful problem of installing AC everywhere but then charging way too much for heat pumps even though they are the same thing

Show threadMichael Bacon5d ago

@thomasfuchs

Also, it is a tiny jump from installing an air conditioner to installing a two-way heat pump that can be both an AC unit and can electrify Europe's heating. And Europe's gas-based heating is a MUCH bigger climate problem than AC units!