ShadowChina celebrity dog stolen, sold for US$25 and eaten
NegentropicBoyEating Dog? In modern day China?
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humaneworld.org/…/ending-chinas-dog-and-cat-meat-…
Globally, an estimated 20 million dogs and 6 million cats are slaughtered annually for human consumption. Of these, approximately 10 million dogs and 4 million cats are killed each year in China alone.
Sounds like it.
The article title and body don’t match in the amount of the sale:
sold for US$25
He was later told that Chutou had been sold to a dog meat restaurant for 180 yuan (US$27) and the pet had been eaten.
I mean, not that it’s that far off, but seems odd to have an article where the two don’t match.
TheTechnician27180 yuan right now is $26.59. Given the headline only reports the conversion which changes, it’s arguably better to round it as they did to convey a general point rather than the exact specific amount of dollars.
Edit: Looking at it now, the conversion rate seems reasonably stable, so I wonder if they still rounded it just for simplicity’s sake.
So dog meat is affordable?
looks at my cockapoo
You already own the cockapoo, so only you can say how affordable its meat is
FauxPseudo Rupert† was only $60. But we have fed him for something like 8 years. So that’s a pretty large investment for a meal. And if you see my posts over on c/cooking you will know that I am always calculating the cost of a meal.
Your lab has a lot more than $500 in them. Don’t undervalue them. I don’t think lab is suitable for breakfast, lunch or brunch. Have people over for dinner and charge a reasonable amount.
† aka I wasn’t letting my wife make him Giles.
This comment, hopefully, is solidly sarcasm.
While not getting into whether we should eat meat at all, if we are eating meat, I don’t see how eating dog meat is any more or less immoral than eating most other meats. Eating someone’s pet, whether it be a dog or a pot belly pig is a shit move, but I doubt the restaurant was told they were buying someone’s pet.
technically everything has a consciousness including plants, beans etc so you lose high ground if youre going to play a moral card in any of this. plants just can run away or scream.
it can still be tragic to eat an animal companion.
let’s just not pretend someone holds sll the moral cards for not eating consciousness to stay alive. nobody in these fleshbags holds any of the high ground there.
If you believe plants experience suffering, and would like to reduce suffering, you should go vegan. The reason is that by eating meat, you kill or harm way more plants — the plants that have been eaten by the animals you eat.
I think the point is that we all eat food, and at some point in it’s production, some suffering happened. and that’s alright
edit:
this has nothing to do with privilege. it’s talking about the democracy of food.
ElcaineVoltathis is the peak of privilege
I tend to respond to bad takes.
dude, I don't even know you. I see nonsense and I post a reply. feel free to block me if you want.
To be clear: I am not disagreeing about introducing more plants to replace meats and other unhealthy stuff on a health and economic perspective. That path of awareness is not what im having a problem with.
What i am disagreeing with is that you or anyone who is eating plant based is using the reasoning that you’ve absolved suffering overall somehow by going vegan. this path of thinking creates a problem for everyone you cannot possibly solve. including yourself.
This is suggesting we must only ever hold an awareness that to live is to suffer and continue imposing suffering on others. And it doesnt matter what you subsitute. It is all suffering from the consciousness perspective if everything is made of consciousness in order to exist(create and distribute). everything you ever consume will have held conscious and will have affected consciousnrss in order to exist and be available to you.
you will never find a solution to that while you exist as a human that requires to consume consiousness to continue to exist. at least in this form as a human. there is no altruistic answer in this kind of an argument.
plants cant scream. they cannot run. they might not have a fluffy tail and do not lick your face but they are still conscious. And that does not make you any less of a monster in this vilifying moralistic scenario you’ve manifested to shove towards all of humanity.
ÜbercomplicatedCan you cite the scientific study that or the philosopher who says with so much confidence that plants (or even animals, for that matter) have consciousness? Don’t get me wrong, my personal belief is closer to your statement, but I have always held that as belief, not fact.
I can’t think of any animal that has such an innate empathetic connection to humans as dogs. Dogs can read us, and we can read them.
binuxI find it strange how you’re getting downvoted, since there’s so much evidence to back up your point. There’s literally a whole page on Wikipedia that goes over the human-canine bond and how it’s unique.
Some points it brings up:
studies have demonstrated that both dogs and humans release oxytocin while spending quality time together.
Canines are capable of distinguishing between positive and negative human facial expressions and will react accordingly.
Psychologists believe that the relationship between human and canine is a bidirectional attachment bond, which resembles that of the typical human caretaker/infant relationship, and shows all of the usual hallmarks of a typical bond.
Canines are capable of assessing humans’ emotional states, as well as discriminating humans by levels of familiarity.
Studies have demonstrated that shelter dogs benefit from interacting with complete strangers…These results demonstrate the canines’ innate desire to form an attachment with a human
More because it’s beside the point. Sure, dogs are unique in that way. That’s not why they’re taboo to eat specifically in our part of the world.
No, that’s very much a part of why it’s considered taboo. Obviously there’s a wide range of difference in cultural opinion of what’s considered “okay” to eat, but dogs have still been with humans for the longest out of any domesticated animal. They’ve literally evolved to eat diets more like our own. It’s completely intuitive that there would be such vehement opposition to eating an animal we’re so historically close to, even if it’s mostly on a cultural basis.
Then why are horses also controversial to eat?
Let’s be real, this isn’t a thing where someone sat down and decided morally speaking what our diet should be. It’s a cultural standard, and it’s the same as Hindus being mad that in the West we specifically eat beef.
it’s a safety concern. Cannibalism spreads diseases easier.
Human meat, much like rabbit meat, can cause “rabbit starvation” so I suppose that’s another reason. Plus people get their panties in a wad if you start talking about eating other people for some reason. I personally think there’s plenty of fat billionaires I would not mind eating.
Nah cannibalism is cringe
Kill the billionaires and turn them into corpse fertilizer instead!
Any kind of really lean meat can cause “rabbit starvation”. Humans just can’t process too much protein.
Like you said, though, many humans are deliciously marbled, or have a fat layer you could focus on.
Also, humans tend to fight back more than we want to deal with.
Unironically it still makes perfect sense.
Just as valid as eating a pig.
(However valid you think that is)
Depends on how you view the food chain. If you’re against eating mean for environmental reasons, carnivores are much more unethical then eating herbivores.
I’ve never understood the idea of farming carnivores for meat because of how much more costly the process must be.
Dogs can live fine on a vegetarian diet, and pigs will happily eat meat or predate. They’re both highly social omnivores. Most likely, they get the same kind of food when farmed, too.
The comparison gets more difficult to prove with cows, and a lot more difficult for chickens. But, a pig is almost the same animal ecologically, and people have pet pigs that live in their house just like a dog.
OP didn’t say “your dog” or “a pet dog”, they said “dogs”.
lechekaflanThere still exist absolute traditionalist peasantry, unbending even during Mao and the Cultural Revolution, and even unchanged by how much money they earn, where they still maintain their own culture and habits, which includes consuming certain animals for their supposed medicinal and libidinous properties. Yeah, to those people, a dog is a dog that can be killed for dinner as livestock… and washed down with beer.
Am I missing something?
Nothing in the article itself suggests that we know what happened to the dog after it was stolen other than the headline.
The article just ends after this part:
Guo cut short his trip and rushed back to China to search for him.
Checking the archive didn’t turn up any more of the article.
Wispy2891Maybe china should focus its governmental might on stopping illegal meat butchers instead of stopping gay people from using public spaces.
A) It’s not illegal. It’s a dog, it’s a valid meat source in most regions of the world.
B) You’re severely misunderstanding (or were made to misunderstand) China’s LGBT stance. You can be gay in public (hell Chongqing would be under martial law if that were illegal), you cannot make pornography. That’s the only rule, and that also applies to straight content. The only LGBT crackdowns that have happened have been porn crack downs that happened to include, not specifically target just include, LGBT content creators.
There’s more openly gay people in China than there are gay people in the entire Western world bro.
you cannot make pornography. That’s the only rule
Nope, that’s categorically false in every possible way, even if we’re being pedantic. For the sake of informing those who might have been misled by this (since I have little doubt you’re being intentionally disingenuous as campists often are) Here’s a couple relevant excerpts from the Wikipedia article on LGBTQ rights in China:
[LGBTQ] people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC) face legal and social challenges that are not experienced by non-LGBTQ residents. While both male and female same-sex sexual activity are legal, same-sex couples are currently unable to marry or adopt, and households headed by such couples are ineligible for the same legal protections available to heterosexual couples. No explicit anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people are present in its legal system, nor do hate crime laws cover sexual orientation or gender identity.
Under Chinese Communist Party (CCP) general secretary Xi Jinping, LGBTQ venues and events have been forced to shut and LGBTQ rights activists have become subject to greater scrutiny by the country’s system of mass surveillance. The CCP increasingly considers LGBTQ advocacy the work of "foreign forces”. LGBTQ content is censored. Authors of boys’ love works are routinely arrested and criminally prosecuted.
Yup this underlines what i meant very well, especially the excerpt from wikipedia.
China treats LGBT folks equally to cishets.
Looks inside
No gay marriage
So the definition of systemic homophobia. Not even the bare minimum.
No, they can just legally join in partnership and have all of the same government incentives as married people… They just don’t call it marriage since marriage is for incentivizing procreation.
People would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
legalclarity.org/is-gay-marriage-legal-in-china-r…
And let’s live in the alternate reality you’re talking about for a minute. Can two straight people get married in China with no intention of procreation? Can two gay people get married if they’re planning to adopt? Can they even adopt? Come on man, I get being wrong, but don’t double down on it.
And let’s live in the alternate reality you’re talking about for a minute
We’ve been in reality for quite a bit.
Can two straight people get married in China with no intention of procreation?
It’d be really, really weird culturally and a huge risk most aren’t willing to take. Also if you’re a straight foreigner marrying a chinese national your application will almost certainly be denied if you state you’re not willing to have kids, since that’ll be seen as a fake marriage trying to gain Chinese spousal residency.
Can two gay people get married if they’re planning to adopt?
Since they can enter into a mutual guardianship and adopt yes? You people get tripped up on the word ‘Marriage’ way too much. A rephrasing would be can two gay people cohabitate, share full financial resources, get tax breaks, and adopt? Sure. Can they get ‘married’? No. The difference is entirely without substance at this point, but because Stalin was so incredibly anti-gay, we’re still suffering through the lasting ‘but that’s not the right way’ nonsense cultural war he started so you can’t call it marriage.
Can they even adopt?
Yes.
Come on man, I get being wrong, but don’t double down on it.
I live here half the year, dumbass. You are objectively the incorrect one, in anything you say about China.
Would two gay men in guardianship refer to each other as their ‘husband’ (i.e. the word that a heterosexual couple would use), or is there a different word for it? Not trying to be argumentative just curious how closely guardianship is culturally associated with marriage.
Makes me wonder if there is some kind of food shortage we’re not hearing about. Eating dogs is one thing, but the stealing of pets to use as meat sounds like a form of desperation.
Nah, I don’t think people on a bike stealing a dog care if it was a pet or not.
Our dog is a rescue from South Korea and seemed to be from a dog farm, as well as our friends dog was for sure rescued from a dog meat producer.
They have a different view of what is acceptable eating animals in the East compared to West.
So a random dog in a field seems like easy prey.
Yet another Chinese certified L
KarnaBillions of animals murdered for food every year: 😊
Celebrity doggo eaten: 🤬😤😡
Celebrity doggo eaten: 🤬😤😡
“We eat large mammalian quadrupeds, so we’re civilised. They eat large mammalian quadrupeds, so they’re barbaric”
Being mad they eat bugs is basically chauvanism too, but at least it’s taxonomically coherent.
Honestly dog meat is on it’s way out just from Western influence anyway.