Mastodawn

@makeithappen5634 if you self-host (which you should), you can bring your own OIDC provider

@k8ie i often don't like the "bring your own" even more when it come to those "sovereign" company.

Can i self host ? absolutly, ask this to my grand ma and she will spit on your face.

being able to self host is not enough, from a "sovereign" app, i would had expected at minimum a codeberg or any other EU.

Because here you have 4 US thing and 3 that are owned by microslop :/

@makeithappen5634

if you don't want to use any of these SSO options, you're free to just use email

I also honestly don't think you or me are the target audience of Netbird, their core audience are likely companies, particularly startups

companies tend to have Entra/Google/GitHub/M$ accounts already enrolled for every one of their employees

they're likely hoping that one of their employees might stumble upon Netbird, say "hey, that's exactly what we need", click one of the big shiny slopware SSO buttons and try it out in a few minutes instead of fiddling with emails

I also don't think your grandma is the target audience for "an Open Source Zero Trust Networking platform that allows you to create secure private networks for your organization or home"

also where in their marketing do they say that they're focused on being "soverign"? I couldn't find that

@k8ie actually netbird and co (tailscale etc) have a functionallity that can be used for people where you need to be on vpn 24/7 (due to the supercookie on isp level (utiq in EU)).

It's allow a remote access without needing to know your ip or open anything in the firewall.

Allowing to self host home, even without needing to tweak your vpn.

@makeithappen5634 true and I think this is a brilliant business decision

giving the base of your product away for free

if you're someone hacking away on your own infra and you need an always-on P2P VPN, you choose Netbird/Tailscale and get familiar with it

since you already have a technical background, it's not unimaginable that you might get hired for a tech position and recommend Tailscale/Netbird as the VPN solution for your company since it works great for you at home

giving the product to interested individuals for free is low-impact, it doesn't cost them much

getting a company to buy your expensive business plan on the other hand is likely far more profitable and justifies using the free personal tier as an ad

@k8ie actually i nearly never recommend a tool at work that i use home, unless it's totally free (as free speech) and not dependant on an US infrastructure (and saly netbird is hosted on US server).

@makeithappen5634 if your company values sovereignty as mich as you do, they should probably self-host anyway