Melissa BearTrixAnyone else getting ready or looking to move away from bitwarden?
I'm looking at proton at the moment
Hugz & xXx
Lett Osprey 
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@MelissaBearTrix Why, what has happened with Bitwarden?
They sold it selling to a venture company
They took out free forever
They changed what the company focused on when google removed "not to be evil"
Hugz & xXx
@MelissaBearTrix Proton already felt like an evil company, not sure that would be an improvement.
Proton has other income streams, Bitwarden does not. Their main competitors like LastPass or 1password, cost a lot more.
But venture capital is never good.
Probably time to self host passwordmanager as well :/
That's what I'm thinking ... Self hosting
It seems to be the way to go for everything these days
Hugz & xXx
Natasha Ekara@MelissaBearTrix @lettosprey while I hate speaking tech here...
I'm self hosting Vaultwarden which is fully community work and drop in replacement for bitwarden clients and has a better web UI. Relatively easy docker to launch, of course one has to know the basics of hosting, networking and certificates.
I don't trust any company to host my passwords.
@natasha Trust is one thing. Apps are audited, and used by companies with strict security needs and sensitive info, so for most part I halfway assume it is safe.
I trust Bitwarden / 1password enough, Google and similar companies not snooping on whatever unencrypted stuff I stored with them is another issue.
For me, self hosting is most about showing the middle finger to the venture capital driven, capitalist monster that is ruining tech and everything else.
The fact that I end up saving money, is not a bad side effect, but I donate some of that back to the projects I'm using, they may not be there long if we treat them as "free alternatives"...
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@lettosprey @MelissaBearTrix another reason I don't discuss tech is people trying to challenge my convictions. And put politics (and I also have my convictions).
Subject closed, do whatever you want, I just tried to help Mel because she matters to me.
@natasha Whatever reason you have for doing what you do, that is your reason. If you don't trust these companies, and self host for that reason, great, I have zero reason to challenge that.
Many people do trust these companies. There are still reasons to self host. I gave mine, even saying I "halfway assume", because I cannot be sure my assumption is correct.
And for a queer person to toss gender labels at another queer, non-binary person because they felt challenged...
Well..
Welcome to my blocklist.
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