Artyom BologovUpdating my projects page <https://aartaka.me/projects.html> made me recall that I did a mostly compliant #Eliza re-implementation <https://codeberg.org/aartaka/laliza> in the past. Now I’m tempted by it again, but want to add some more features to it, like nested structures and symbol explosions. This will make it a reasonable #programming system, actually!
DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)@aartaka
That's sufficient for you to immediately go public with a $4 trillion valuation.
That's sufficient for you to immediately go public with a $4 trillion valuation.
@dougmerritt I’m right on the AI hype wave here!
Ramin Honary@aartaka
Recently I have been genuine curious as to what would happen if you told an LLM to write a bunch of grammar rules for an implementation of ELIZA , I wonder if we had an LLM recreate enough of itself as ELIZA rules would we be able to ditch the LLM and just run ELIZA? It would be really funny if an LLM-generated ELIZA rule set could actually handle 90% of what most people are using LLMs to do right now. Plus the fact of commanding an LLM to do the work that would replace itself, rather than a tech-bro boss telling their employees to train an LLM to replace themselves, is pretty ironic too.
@dougmerritt
Recently I have been genuine curious as to what would happen if you told an LLM to write a bunch of grammar rules for an implementation of ELIZA , I wonder if we had an LLM recreate enough of itself as ELIZA rules would we be able to ditch the LLM and just run ELIZA? It would be really funny if an LLM-generated ELIZA rule set could actually handle 90% of what most people are using LLMs to do right now. Plus the fact of commanding an LLM to do the work that would replace itself, rather than a tech-bro boss telling their employees to train an LLM to replace themselves, is pretty ironic too.
@dougmerritt
Konrad Hinsen@ramin_hal9001 Inversely, it could be fun to converse with the Eliza therapist about AI psychosis, AI risk, and related topics.
@khinsen I mean, therapist script is pretty universal, and you can try going that yourself with M-x doctor 😉
@aartaka You mean the "real" Eliza is no better than M-x doctor? I quickly get bored with that one.
@khinsen so Eliza is a pattern-matching engine, and doctor script was merely a script for it. Technically, you can write much more involved scripts and get to almost-Turing-complete behaviors. But the original Eliza engine is quite restricted in e.g. not having nested structures and I/O, thus the need for my extensions.
@aartaka
> not having nested structures and I/O
Just as a nitpick, Turing originally proposed Turing machines without I/O, which he considered to be a separate category.