Mastodawn

R.L. Dane

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May 25

@dillo

I mean, if someone is using VSCode... to contribute to Dillo... what's the problem, I can't quite put my finger on it... 🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAzpa1x7jU

Dillo browser May 26

@rl_dane "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..."

Blade Runner - Final scene, "Tears in Rain" Monologue (HD)

YouTube

One of my favorite moments in film. :D

Also:

$ ed CONTRIBUTING.md
$
a

If your dev tools can't run in 2 GiB of RAM, probably don't bother contributing.
You're not the target audience.
.
w
q

😂

And if you particularly nostalgic in less the 64 KB of RAM.

Norman Wilson May 26

@sirwumpus @rl_dane @dillo Like the original ed(I) (as it was back then).

@oclsc @sirwumpus @dillo

I'm impressed that GNU ed is only 59KiB.
I wasn't aware you could even compile an amd64 binary that small with gcc anymore. XD

$ uname; ls -l $(which ed)
Linux
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 59,952 Mar 27  2025 /usr/bin/ed

It's somehow smaller than NetBSD's?!?

$ ssh $tildepink 'uname; ls -l $(which ed)'
NetBSD
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  64344 Dec 16  2024 /bin/ed

But not FreeBSD's

$ ssh $rldanedotspace 'uname; ls -l $(which ed)'
FreeBSD
-r-xr-xr-x  2 root wheel 51912 Jun  6  2025 /bin/ed

What happened to #OpenBSD's ed? Statically compiled, I guess...

$ ssh $tildeinstitute 'uname; ls -l $(which ed)'
OpenBSD
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  bin  227608 Mar 25  2023 /bin/ed

@gumnos

@sirwumpus @oclsc @dillo @gumnos

eh my minimalist Vi builds with gcc -Os on NetBSD (minus dynamic libraries) just under 30K now.

More minimal than nvi? :D

@sirwumpus @oclsc @dillo @gumnos

Yes. Bostic's nvi on NetBSD comes in at ~500K, while eh is 30K. The IOCCC version won last year and was even smaller about 19K.

If you look at the commands, its pretty robust for 30K. Some concessions like only search/replace forward with wrap around, no ex mode, but otherwise functional. Even has a highlighted selection yank, delete, change, filter, multi-level undo/redo.

eh

eh - Edit Here - vi(1) the good parts version is a minimalist version of vi(1). It is an example of the "Buffer Gap" method and supports UTF-8.

Codeberg.org

I love it!!!

41 KiB on this amd64 #FreeBSD box, used the makefile with no changes.

rld@Intrepid:~$ ll $(which vi)
-r-xr-xr-x  6 root wheel 456,432 Jun  6  2025 /usr/bin/vi
rld@Intrepid:~$ ll $(which eh)
-rwxr-xr-x  1 rld rld 42,352 May 26 18:46 /home/rld/.local/bin/eh

lol it's smaller than ed. I love this!!

@sirwumpus @oclsc @dillo @gumnos

Try make strip will be smaller still.

30k!! NICE.