8 Democrats Help Pass GOP Bill Forcing Teachers To Out Transgender Students

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8 Democrats Help Pass GOP Bill Forcing Teachers To Out Transgender Students - Lemmy.World

Henry Cuellar, Donald Davis, Cleo Fields, Laura Gillen, Vicente Gonzalez, Marcy Kaptur, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, and Eugene Vindman

The system is corrupt and must be destroyed.
the system is working as intended and must be destroyed :)

It also bans teachers from talking about trans people at all.

This should be an easy overturn, but we all know the “freedumb of speech” crowd got their puppet justice on the SC to only interpret the phrase in a particular way.

Wait, how can they out the students if they can’t talk about trans people?
Bigot bills rarely make sense.

Don’t bother looking for logical consistency in right wing legislation. It isn’t there, and drawing attention to their hypocrisy will drive you insane cuz none of them care.

The only thing that’s ever consistent is the cruelty: the goal is always to hurt some out-group. Often at the cost of hurting themselves, but so long as the out-group is hurt too, they don’t mind falling on their own sword to make it happen.

“Thank you for coming in, parents who are either so antagonistic to their child or so checked out of their life you don’t know a fundamental aspect of their being before a teacher does.

I am required by law to tell you something about your child, but I am barred by the same law from saying what it is. Hopefully you go home and just feel bad about yourself rather than becoming violent with your child. I love that my poorly paid job now makes me complicit in this.”

Let me guess, no such ban on talking about pedophiles?
Nah, that’s fine just so long as they’re not Republican ones.
Okay, Cuellar was the free bingo space for being a shitbag but Vindman after what they did to him? Also Perez right between Portland and Seattle?? We need to primary everyone who did this
I think they meant to title this “Why these eight lying scumbags need to be primaried to prevent continuing slide into fascism”

Unfortunately Cuellar and Gonzalez won their primaries.

Party leadership showed it preferred Cuellar over any progressive, and it’s exactly because of votes like this.

Cuellar was pardoned by Trump and clearly captured. What the hell is wrong with his district in Texas?

What the hell is wrong with his district in Texas?

The party demonstrated that it will do whatever it takes to defeat progressive candidates, so they stopped running.

Wouldn’t a democratic voter pick a ham sandwich over someone pardoned by Trump and has voted in line with everything Trump has asked of him since the pardon? Seems like a good opportunity to get a progressive candidate in there.

Wouldn’t a democratic voter pick a ham sandwich over someone pardoned by Trump and has voted in line with everything Trump has asked of him since the pardon?

The last time a progressive ran against him, the party threw everything it had behind Cuellar. This was before trump pardoned him, but after he made it clear that he was an anti-choice anti-labor pro-nra candidate. Cuellar won by something like 500 votes.

Any progressive candidate has to fight against the Democratic party to win the nomination and then if they win anyway, they have to fight the Republican candidate with a depleted war chest and no support from their own party. Or as Mamdani showed, active antagonism from their own party.

I would have hoped there may have been active antagonism at this point. Cuellar worse than Fetterman or a Republican at this point and squishy brained Dems still voting for him.

As long as the party backs him up (and since he does everything party leadership wants, they will keep doing so) his district doesn’t have anyone with the means to fight two major US political parties.

Not to mention, Cuellar has a documented history of corruption. I’m certain he has no problem abusing his office to kneecap opposition. After all, he’s a centrist democrat.

Party leadership showed

[Citation needed]

Party leadership threw its weight behind Cuellar in the 2022 primaries. He won against his underfunded opponent by something like 500 votes.

Progressives have to fight two parties in order to be elected.

Plus millions in AIPAC money.
Gluesenkamp Perez is almost always on the wrong side of decisions like these. Unfortunately, her district is very mixed and not remotely a Democratic stronghold. A more progressive Democrat would be unlikely to win in her district.
There’s a pretty strong push from her primary opponent this year - he’s winning over local Republicans in conversation by focusing on medicare/Medicaid expansion.
Relieved to not see Golden on this list of Republican Democrats
Let me guess, none of them are up for reelection this year?
Everyone in the House of Representatives is up for election every cycle.

All but Fields represent swing districts, with Cuellar, Davis, Gonzalez, Kaptur and Gluesenkamp Perez considered particularly vulnerable in November’s election. (Fields’ safely Democratic district is likely to be eliminated by GOP gerrymandering, though he could choose to run for reelection in a far more conservative seat.) Republicans, who have seen the public turn against them on major issues like inflation and immigration, continue to believe they have an advantage on transgender issues ― particularly when it relates to how they are handled in schools and in kids’ sports. All of the vulnerable Democrats are likely to face attack ads on transgender issues in the fall.

The curse of the big tent. You accept conservative democrats who will break from the party sometimes or get a conservative Republican who will be a rubber stamp for Trump on everything.

I wish American politics were different, but here we are. If you want to change things then organize with your community, go down to your local Democratic party headquarters, and coopt their infrastructure from the ground up.

Or tell people to vote 3rd party (Any third party, it doesn’t matter!) and then whine online that suppressing votes for Democrats didn’t fix things, I can’t tell you what to do.

The curse of the big tent.

Your tent should try to welcome the left instead of fight them to impress the fascists you adore.

Oh shit, it’s ensign crab. I was afraid you’d killed yourself since you’re so upset about genocide [as long as being upset about the genocide is politically helpful to Donald Trump]. Glad you managed to soldier on!

And unfortunately yes, that does mean in some districts you can’t expect to support trans rights and win. Reality sucks. Its unfortunate you don’t have any solutions other than shitty devise commentary and voter suppression in leftist spaces.

The solution is easy. Offer progressive policies. The most transphobic piece of shit still wants healthcare. If offered universal healthcare, their opinion will be along the lines of, “yeah, I don’t like them trans people, but if I can afford to see my doctor then I don’t give a fuck”.

We see progressive policies win over folks all the time. That’s why people like Bernie Sanders can go on Fox, sit in front of a live audience of Fox supporters, and get that entire audience to support him and his platform by offering healthcare or affordable housing or any other progressive policy.

Establishment Dems know this but refuse to support progressive policies because then they’d actually have to do something beyond using the Republicans to scaremonger. If establishment Dems would just listen to their constiuents, we wouldn’t be in this mess. A majority of the blame lies at the feet of the Democratic Party.

Lol you are out of touch with reality friend. Besr case scenario the most transphobic piece shit is going to say “I don’t care if I can afford health care, I don’t want my kids getting molested by trans people”. More likely they’re going to say “Fuck off with your socialism, I don’t want your well fare and stop trying to sell my kids to trans pedohiles”.

Sorry reality sucks, but here we are.

If the world truly worked this way, then the Trump administration’s disparagment of the new Iranian Ayatollah being gay would work. Nobody gives a fuck if the new Ayatollah is gay because gas prices are ballooning out of control. The Right Wingers are trying everything to pin high gas prices on Iran, but people aren’t eating the shit they are serving. Sure there are a few crazies out there saying, “High gas prices are worth it to defeat the gay communist muslim terrorists”, but those people are a minority who do not need to be catered to.

You should not cater to the worst dregs of our society because they are an inconsequential miniscule outlier. Sure, the transphobe might claim that they hate trans kids getting healthcare, but they’ll still go to the hospital and get treatment when they fall ill, just like those vaccine conspiracy nuts who died of covid in the hospitals. Trying to appease them is stupid, especially when it costs you the majority as it did with Kamala Harris.

I appreciate your response and wish it were true.

If you believe it to be true and it’s as easy as just offering government sponsored health care to get elected then I encourage you to run for Congress on that platform. I think it’s a great plank, so once you get a campaign website setup please send me a link I’ll send you a donation and help out how I can.

Unfortunately it’s probably too late for this election cycle, but now is the time to start planning for 2028. Good luck!

There’s no need to be glib. Judging by your comments, you do not believe a better future is possible and are resigned to working with whatever the DNC offers you. Your writing seems resentful of anyone trying to make things better as if they are radical dreamers. We’ve seen progressive policies get progressive candidates elected, so I don’t know why you keep implying that America is not ready for these ideas.

Personally, I am not the type of person to lead from the front. I’m a door knocker more than a politician, which is why I’m in the DSA and work with other members to pool our power and get progressive policies passed. There is more than one way to be involved in politics. People like Mamdani or AOC have a wide base of support behind them; they are not changing things alone. Your implication that the only way to be involved in politics is to get elected only serves to discourage people from getting active in politics.

If you are not willing to be an active change to better things, the least you can do is get out of the way.

We’ve seen progressive policies get progressive candidates elected, so I don’t know why you keep implying that America is not ready for these ideas.

He doesn’t like the ideas.

Besr case scenario the most transphobic piece shit is going to say “I don’t care if I can afford health care, I don’t want my kids getting molested by trans people”. More likely they’re going to say “Fuck off with your socialism, I don’t want your well fare and stop trying to sell my kids to trans pedohiles”.

You can just say what you mean about trans people without ascribing it to one of the bigots you admire.

You brave soldier 😢😰 carrying on against all those mean transphobes out there 🤬😡🤬😤😡[as long as it helps keeps Republicans in power].

I don’t know how you have the strength 💪 to get up day after day and head into Lemmy and punish those evil Democratic voters 🤢🤮😡

🎉🎉🎇 Keep up the🎇🎉🎉 [leftist voter suppression] fight!

I don’t know how you have the strength 💪 to get up day after day and head into Lemmy and punish those evil Democratic voters 🤢🤮😡

I don’t think the voters are evil. I think the politicians are.

And I think that’s why you’re defending your fellow anti-trans bigots.

Oh shit, it’s ensign crab. I was afraid you’d killed yourself since you’re so upset about genocide [as long as being upset about the genocide is politically helpful to Donald Trump]. Glad you managed to soldier on!

Got under your skin by saying that your only policy is bad, huh?

And unfortunately yes, that does mean in some districts you can’t expect to support trans rights and win.

You will abandon any constituency not named netanyahu.

You must be so sad about all these mean Democrats bullying you, poor baby 😪🤧🤢

You keep up the [faux] outrage and keep on fighting [to keep leftists apathetic and disengaged]

You must be so sad about all these mean Democrats bullying you

I’m sad that democrats can’t seem to stop supporting genocide and bigotry.

I was afraid you’d killed yourself since you’re so upset about genocide [as long as being upset about the genocide is politically helpful to Donald Trump]. Glad you managed to soldier on!

BlueMaga scum are every bit as loathsome and deplorable as the regular kind, holy shit

"For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia. And you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin”

Man you’re right, don’t vote for a Democrat, stay home.
Let’s just not bullshit each other about why the Democratic Party exists

It exists because we have a shitty democracy in the United States that relies on the electoral college and first past the post voting.

It’s also an organization comprised of thousands of local offices that you can go to today and start influencing. It won’t be easy and it won’t be immediate, but life is unfair and we have to fight to unfuck the mistakes of all our ancestors if we want to build a better world.

Until we get a better democracy “don’t vote for a Democrat” only helps the fascists.

I never said anything about who to vote for, but we all know the Democratic Party is a private institution that is not obligated to follow the will of its constituents. Just look at national public policy polling and where the party diverges. Look at how the party leaders ignore and work against massively popular progressive candidates like Graham Platner, Ilhan Omar, Abdul El-Sayed, Zohran Mamdani, etc.

Do you honestly think they want to “win”?

The Democratic Party exists as a honeypot to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and to ensure that the Overton Window of American politics never moves left. They are a right-wing party that runs cover for republicans. They don’t agree with you, they want to stop you.

Oh, you think voter apathy is an effective strategy for change. Have a good day.
No, I think we should recognize party leadership as the enemy and treat them accordingly instead of pretending they’re inept or that they can be swayed to adopt progressive positions.

Until we get a better democracy “don’t vote for a Democrat” only helps the fascists.

Until we get better democrats, they’ll keep losing and you’ll keep acting like every last criticism of even the vilest behavior is telling people not to vote.

😭😭😭 those bad Democrats are why you have to support Trump, it’s not your fault 🤢🤮🤯🤯 Poor little guy 🤢🤧🥵 just one more voter suppression post and senpai trump will notice you 🥰😍😇😇

those bad Democrats are why you have to support Trump, it’s not your fault

Criticism of the genocide wing isn’t trump support just because you can’t bear criticism of genocide.

We get it, you don’t care about trans people, or the complicit actions of the democratic party. That you have no problem with violence being carried out in your name to the point of mocking people who do care.

Everyday I have more and more trouble in telling the fundamental difference between MAGA and someone like you. Someone who ignores reality, and make bad faith arguments. Throwing tantrums when their emotional loaded arguments don’t work. Disgusting behavior you have displayed here.

It certainly doesn’t make voting blue easier when it associates me with someone like yourself.

I’m sorry reality is too complicated for you. Keep living in your fantasy world where crocodile tears are enough to protect trans people and stop atrocities around the world.
Reality is what you care about? Because I have yet to see any evidence to that end coming from you. All I’ve seen is behavior that doesn’t make me want to associate with you.
This guy has got to go.
Are we allowed to say both sides are bad and the entire system needs to be replaced yet?

Or you could say we’re not a cult blindly following an orange idol. We include a diversity of opinions

Plus congressmen should represent their constituents, no matter how spiteful and close-minded

You would have voted for slavery & segregation if it had been the will of your constituency.

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