Mike ElganNow you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/
PaulaToThePeople 😷@MikeElgan I'd love to see stats added on how much profit they create for the fossil industry and how much funding they get from the fossil industry.
Because that's the AI buisness model. Without AI we'd have energy transition.
PS: Also alt text would be nice for inclusivity (not AI written of course).
Pascal d'Hermilly@PaulaToThePeople I suspect that the energy requirements of AI may end up accellerating the change to green energy because it will faster scale it because its cheaper. When you have to grow your power-net a lot you will scale green energy and faster grow confident in transitioning entirely.
skaphle@Pascal_dher @PaulaToThePeople Well, so far I've heard of plans to run old and new coal, gas and nuclear power plants to power these AI data centers.
Another problem with additional power usage is that it is additional. We already need to reduce our primary energy consumption. Transitioning to cleaner energy is a relative improvement for the energy that we still need, but in an absolute sense we need to need less energy.
The most important part of the transition is that we burn fewer fossil fuels and not that we build a lot of solar panels. So fewer fossil fuels burnt should be the metric by which the energy transition can be evaluated.
@skaphle
We agree that we need to reduce co2 emissions. My point is that the increased power demand that is undeniably here today will learn western countries competent management of their power grid as opposed to the last 20-year stalemate with cuts to optimize. Growing competence due to having to meet demands will make it a lot easier to stop burning stuff. The growth will come from renewables simply because its cheaper.
@PaulaToThePeople
We agree that we need to reduce co2 emissions. My point is that the increased power demand that is undeniably here today will learn western countries competent management of their power grid as opposed to the last 20-year stalemate with cuts to optimize. Growing competence due to having to meet demands will make it a lot easier to stop burning stuff. The growth will come from renewables simply because its cheaper.
@PaulaToThePeople