jonny (nonvenomous)I regret to give anyone this information that didn't already have it, but "the left for AI" as a cluster of ideas both a) exists and b) is infopoison of the highest order
There is this hilarious word salad ive seen spun a few times that goes something something labor theory of value something something intelligence displaces money etc and so on therefore the left must harness the labor power of AI
It has gone far enough to suggest that maybe opposition to AI is in fact a conspiracy propagated by the AI companies to keep people from realizing the um capacity for AI-assisted organizing (?!?) and apparently this is an increasingly common strain in some tankie circles who believe that the international vanguard of communism failed because of not enough computers. That the left is being left behind while the corporate execs and fascists marinate in the utopia of AI.
I don't even have enough strength of will to explain how bad of an idea this is and how it makes no sense and has nothing resembling a concordance with this reality except to point at all the billions of dollars spent creating and pushing this technology on every front and say "surely the whole of global capital spending entire civilizations worth of riches to get us to use this technology might suggest they think they have something to gain by people becoming reliant on it"
I instead view the situation as one that has eminent empirical validation where the largest companies in the world are trying to get us dependent on a technology that yields full control of what is possible to know, what happened, and what can be done as a subscription product with inelastic demand once saturated.
The reason the right and corporate center are experiencing great gains with AI are that they are floating on massive piles of exploitation that cushion losses, that the things they need are probabilistic managerialism where imprecision is a benefit as it can be constructed to always err in the managers favor, and the winning end state for them is total surveillance with carefully controlled access to information. None of these things can be "adopted by the left"
Mx. Chara Aznable (they/them) of Pnictogen@jonny this reminds me a bit of the nonsense about the left needing a Joe Rogan, exhibiting not a trace of awareness that Rogan's comfortable niche in corporate media can only be filled by someone right-wing. Grasping for normie appeal and normie popularity is ridiculous: only certain persons are allowed to rise within that system, and it's not leftists. It seems equally ridiculous to run after the poisoned gifts of corporate technology.
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Right, ya. "The right has a successful strategy, how can we 1:1 adopt that" is not usually a great idea.
Right, ya. "The right has a successful strategy, how can we 1:1 adopt that" is not usually a great idea.
Chris Hanson@jonny @mxchara The unstated goal of such statements by the self-proclaimed “center-left” is to prevent any actual left populism from taking root. Because it turns out they’re not “center-left” at all; at least in the US and UK, they’re to the right of actual centrists like Bernie Sanders and AOC and Jeremy Corbyn.