Mastodawn

you know, in spite of how much I like rust the language, I’m really starting to feel like it’s yet another software community whose loudest voices really don’t want me using their software https://chaosfem.tw/@Athena/116578993491995353

Athena (@[email protected])

tell me you’re a coward without telling me > No comment on this PR may mention the following topics: > Long-term social or economic impact of LLMs > The environmental impact of LLMs > Anything to do with the copyright status of LLM output Moral judgements about people who use LLMs > We have asked the moderation team to help us enforce these rules. https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-forge/pull/1040

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Irenes (many)

@zzt yeah it really says volumes that they are forbidding any of the important topics from being mentioned as part of the conversation that's going to set binding policy

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[object Object]6h ago

@ireneista it’s a bit shocking how similar this is, tactically, to how leaded gas was approved for sale in the US even though its toxicity was already well-known and it already had a body count (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Kehoe and search specifically for the Kehoe Rule. there’s a bit more context on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr. and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead too regarding that first conference, which decided that the harms of leaded gasoline were somehow out of scope)

Robert A. Kehoe - Wikipedia

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Irenes (many)5h ago

@zzt yeah, or the comparison that comes to mind for us is how institutional review boards are (usually) forbidden to consider ethical concerns that relate to the effect of the research on the world if successful, and only allowed to consider harm to researchers and participants in the experiment

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Maia 5h ago

@ireneista @zzt it’s a massive breach of trust