evacideIf you are in your late thirties to mid-forties right now, there is a good chance that you have spent most of your life in a cycle of making some sort of home on the internet only to have it crumble beneath you like chalk and having to start over.
W. Latif Ayubi 🏴☠️@evacide Letting big tech companies host and own your accounts was a mistake. In the early days we hosted our own stuff, our own websites, email, etc.. We need to go back to that. Not your keys, not your home.
Strypey@wayubi
> Letting big tech companies host and own your accounts was a mistake
Agreed.
> In the early days we hosted our own stuff, our own websites, email, etc
This is a common legend, not entirely true. It was quite normal in the 1990s to trust hosting of email, etc, to institutions with which we had a direct relationship; universities, ISPs, etc. The move to hosting by faceless platforms like Yahoo, Hotmail, EGroups, etc, began in the late 1990s, as the DotCom bubble inflated.
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@wayubi
> I used to host my own stuff on bluehost and geocities
Good for you. I had a website in the late 1990s on Orcon's gratis hosting, which I made using NVu and uploaded over FTP with Filezilla. But this style of self-hosting wasn't universal ever. As I say community-hosting by a trusted org was just as common, if not more common.
@wayubi
> I'm sorry your memory is failing you, it happens with age
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and presume that was intended as light-hearted humour. But FYI that kind of joke doesn't always land when posting in a text-only medium, or when talking to strangers, and especially when you're doing both.
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It's akin to the way obtain veges. It's true we haven't always relied on corporations to supply them. Some people still grow their own, and it's true that a generation ago more of us did that. But even then, plenty of people got at least some of our veges from local greengrocers, farners markets, and small, locally-owned supermarkets.
Some of us are lucky enough to still have such things, and increasing the availability of them is just as valid as a way of de-corporatising vege supply.
@aerion @strypey @evacide Strictly speaking, neither are any of the self hosting services in existence (or the domain resolution services you need to drive traffic there), but it's understood that your own code uploaded to a web server via ftp counts as self hosting, and not everyone has a stick up their ass.