TROM3d ago

We have received a Copyright claim from Amazon for our @peertube instance videos.trom.tf/ . Hetzner, the hosting company where we have the dedicated server at, gave us 24h to resolve it.

The problem?

The video in question, a documentary about "aliens", a garbage piece of content, was NOT hosted on our instance, of course. But since Peertube is federated the idiots sent the claim to our hosting company. Even if UNDER the video you can see that video is "Posted By:" and the instance and username. It takes a few seconds to see where the video is hosted.

But who cares...maybe Amazon has "AI Agents" employed and they simply find a video of theirs on a URL and see the IP of that URL and submit a Copyright claim to the hosting where that domain is registered?!

Bunch of idiots.

But it is very concerning the fact that they can do these and we, the ones who host (and for free for that matter), need to quickly "fix" these things even if the claim has nothing to do with our server.

We eventually had to block that URL, thanks Peertube for allowing that, else these idiots cannot understand that it was not us who were hosting that video.

#peertube #fedi #fediverse

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Show threadFinchHaven sfba3d ago

@trom

"The video in question, a documentary about "aliens", a garbage piece of content, was NOT hosted on our instance, of course"

As other have said (and may yet say) IANAL

*That said* there is a vast difference between "hosted on" and "served from"

Your instance may *not* be the sole source for that content, but if a video consumer *gets* it though you, guess what?

It doesn't matter what "makes sense"

This is law, and lawyer-speak

Good luck with it

cc @[email protected]

Show threadTROM3d ago
@FinchHaven It is ridiculous to act as if the content is "on your server" and you have to deal with it. If it is federated, go after the source. Else you swift the responsibility on the TV if one watches "pirated" content on "it".
Show threadFinchHaven sfba3d ago

@trom

What you "like" or "think should happen" is utterly irrelevant

And you clearly don't understand the usage of the word "Federated"

Which is super common around here

Being federated makes *every* federated instance the [a] source

There is no one single point source -- the sources are all federated into multi-point "sources"

Show threadTROM3d ago
@FinchHaven If you make the instances that "display" a piece of remote content, liable for the content, you are destroying the internet itself. I cannot be responsible for a remote content. Federation cannot work if this is the case. It is utterly insane to do that. It is like making your Browser responsible for the content people display on it.
Show threadMaddad ☑️

@trom @FinchHaven

That's a good analogy re the browser...👍

May 11 at 5:07pmWeb
Show threadjeSuisatire neindochohh ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ3d ago

@maddad
If a forum page embeds a YT video isn't it displaying just a link?

Anyway, if we become relevant they will drown us in lawsuits, not because their claims are reasonable but because we can't afford the lawyers to prove that.

That's how the justice system works.

I guess only #EFF could solve this by defending some cases to establish a rule of law.

@trom @FinchHaven