Angela Glansbury 🚽Who should be prime minister
Sir Keir Starmer KC
Catherine West
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Probably should have included Wes Streeting in this for the lols
Catherine West sounds awful based on what little i've read. but preferring starmer over her seems a little extreme
Dan HattonI looked up her voting record, and she seems to be someone who almost always follows the party whip. Because a large fraction of her tenure as an MP was during the Corbyn leadership, that makes her look quite left-wing, but it doesn't give us many clues as to what she'd do if she were the one directing the party whips.
@only_ohm
my rule of thumb with labour is if they are unable to articulate that work isn't the defining characteristic of the working class then they are absolutely no good. happy to be corrected, but i saw enough in her initial statement to say that at best she's a centre-right technocrat and no good.
my rule of thumb with labour is if they are unable to articulate that work isn't the defining characteristic of the working class then they are absolutely no good. happy to be corrected, but i saw enough in her initial statement to say that at best she's a centre-right technocrat and no good.
That's an interesting one. I certainly think the definitions of social class that are interesting for policy-making purposes are based on parental social class, not on current occupational class, but I think that might be orthogonal to the point you're making.
@only_ohm
no you're not getting it.
at a stroke when they redefine their core as working, rather than working class they exclude students, children, chronic sick, and retired.
then they salami-slice that working class down to their idealised stereotype of a working person, no part-timers, no hospitality sector, no self-employed, etc etc
then they ventriloquise that idea worker who is either a female nurse or a male working in a quarry and say they "don't want any of that woke nonsense"
then they end up with a political agenda no different to what the tories and reform are advancing.
the very moment a labour MP finds themselves unable to say the C word (class) don't wait to see if their politics will turn out to be better than any other labour MP who can't say the C word.
I think that's also true, and I don't think there's any particular contradiction between what you said and what I said.
Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE@floppyplopper @only_ohm It's in their strapline - "for the many not the few."
As you list, *everybody* is one of "the few" FSVO "few."
So "for the many not the few" simply translates as "we can fuck over anyone we don't like."