🔥 Mireille Sillander 🔥Cities must be primarily for biological life instead of machines
butchrobot@Mimesatwork we need fuckable cities
Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸@butchrobot @Mimesatwork you might be joking but afaik this is one of the reasons for very low birth rate (below the replacement level) in many industrialized nations
@IngaLovinde @Mimesatwork because we cant fuck the cities??????? macro furs have something to say
@butchrobot @Mimesatwork because we can't fuck in cities!
Or more generally because there are basically no free third places where one can do the fucking, and a lot of people don't have a private first place in this economy.
Or more generally because there are basically no free third places where one can do the fucking, and a lot of people don't have a private first place in this economy.
Peeeeeaaaaaarl@IngaLovinde @butchrobot @Mimesatwork now I'm sure there are definitions here that are broader than my immediate understanding but my immediate reading of this was thinking typical third places eg. parks/malls/libraries just where you can fuck
And like . Based
And like . Based
@buncube @Mimesatwork @butchrobot that's the correct reading.
(Not necessarily in the libraries because that would disturb silence. But, like, there should be places for that.)
(Not necessarily in the libraries because that would disturb silence. But, like, there should be places for that.)
@IngaLovinde @Mimesatwork @butchrobot OKAY I LIKE YOU A LOT MORE NOW /silly
I was NOT expecting that to unironically read the point but you are so fucking real for that and I want so badly to give a detailed response to that but it has to wait until I get home in a few aaaaa
I was NOT expecting that to unironically read the point but you are so fucking real for that and I want so badly to give a detailed response to that but it has to wait until I get home in a few aaaaa
@IngaLovinde @Mimesatwork @butchrobot i GENUINELY NEVER THOUGHT anyone would even actually contemplate that without immediate dismissal
but it really does seem to make FAR TOO MUCH SENSE TO ME and most people will consider you literally genuinely insane for so much as considering it, let alone making it a public discussion
i dont see most other animal building rooms to hide where they fuck. in fact, they probably fuck LESS where they sleep than ANYWHERE ELSE. i'm no animal expert, so this isn't an "expert opinion" in any sense, but it's just a pattern i feel like i'm aware of. and why WOULD they? sex is a thing LITERALLY (almost) EVERYONE EVER will fucking do, and is something so biologically basic and fundamental that i can't fathom the shame people have surrounding it.
kink as a whole is an INCREDIBLY healthy way of engaging with your identity, or with trauma, or with a multitude of things, and it's almost consistently a universally life-changing experience to be able to express one's self openly in that way
it is INCREDIBLY common alone for people to want to see others and/or be seen by others, having sex, EVEN by those who have been forced into viewing sex with aggressive shame- so you then have to consider WHY said people are "shaming themselves" into repressing things for no reason, instead of creating spaces where that behaviour IS accepted
at which point you have to consider the part that sexual repression and frustration and isolation play in the current fascist-capitalist hellscape we live in and the greater concept of a self-sustaining patriarchy
but it really does seem to make FAR TOO MUCH SENSE TO ME and most people will consider you literally genuinely insane for so much as considering it, let alone making it a public discussion
i dont see most other animal building rooms to hide where they fuck. in fact, they probably fuck LESS where they sleep than ANYWHERE ELSE. i'm no animal expert, so this isn't an "expert opinion" in any sense, but it's just a pattern i feel like i'm aware of. and why WOULD they? sex is a thing LITERALLY (almost) EVERYONE EVER will fucking do, and is something so biologically basic and fundamental that i can't fathom the shame people have surrounding it.
kink as a whole is an INCREDIBLY healthy way of engaging with your identity, or with trauma, or with a multitude of things, and it's almost consistently a universally life-changing experience to be able to express one's self openly in that way
it is INCREDIBLY common alone for people to want to see others and/or be seen by others, having sex, EVEN by those who have been forced into viewing sex with aggressive shame- so you then have to consider WHY said people are "shaming themselves" into repressing things for no reason, instead of creating spaces where that behaviour IS accepted
at which point you have to consider the part that sexual repression and frustration and isolation play in the current fascist-capitalist hellscape we live in and the greater concept of a self-sustaining patriarchy
@buncube @Mimesatwork @butchrobot uhh that's not what I meant 😅 what I was talking about was more like, people who don't have private housing and don't have enough money on hotels etc need alternative free places to fuck (in privacy).
Kinda like we have with public toilets.
But also I don't disagree with what you're saying, with one caveat that of course this has to be consensual for everybody including those who see it (because unfortunately I've seen it on fedi more than once that people talk about having sex in public spaces, _flaunting_ that unwilling unexpecting bystanders witnessed it).
Incidentally I recently read a really good book, "The Thick and the Lean" by Chana Porter, where one of the main premises is "what if there was a society just like ours but where sex is considered to be as mundane as eating is in ours, and where eating is considered to be as taboo as sex in ours?"
And also to expand on this, I'm currently lucky to live in a country where unclothed bodies are accepted in dedicated spaces (including some beaches and some lawns), and I think this does wonders for body positivity, because instead of only seeing unhealthy photoshopped images in glossy magazines, people can see actual bodies the way they are in all their diversity.
Unfortunately even in this country the practice was slowly dying out in the last decades, I wish it expanded more instead.
And I wonder how life would be if there was a similar approach to sex.