The United States is named as the biggest threat to the world (even by Americans)

https://lemmy.ml/post/47098027

Fucking eur🤮s
Rare UK win here, I’m surprised

Why the hell is the Dominican Republic so worried about Russia?

Spain doesn’t even think Russia is the world’s greatest threat.

Remember to check under your bed for Ruzzians!
I think the Israel option will actually more accurate given that they’re the ones driving policy in the US.
That’s just offloading the blame the US empire has always been carrying.

Yeah dude, the colony where imperial powers dumped a hated ethnic minority to be in a state of eternal war with the local population to break the local population’s strength is totally the one controlling the imperial power that has all the billionaires and lavish palaces.

Can you please not with the antisemitism?

Israel is not Judaism.
Israel is not Judaism, but Israel being the puppetmasters behind empire requires reading every rich person that knows a Jew as an Israeli agent and is taken straight from the long history antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Or people simply understand that our government is controlled by lobbyists, and one of the most powerful is the Israel lobby.

No antisemitism or conspiracy theory is required.

one of the most powerful

Okay, now explain how that turns into driving US policy to such an extent that other nations should see Israel as the real threat?

If you’re a country in West Asia, Israel and US are pretty indistinguishable. Whatever Israel does, the US will support unconditionally
isreal simply doesnt exist without US support, for all intents and purposes they are the same country
So, which is the real threat, the part of the country that wouldn’t exist without the other par of of the country’s support, or the part of the country that has over 40% of the world’s military budget?
both, it’s really not a hard concept to grasp
Ah yes, enlightened centrism. One of the easier concepts to grasp, indeed. Great to hold on to if you want to stop thinking about something.

Pray tell, what is #3?

www.opensecrets.org/…/2024

Top PACs

Here are the top political committees (PACs) for the 2024 election cycle based on total fundraising, contributions to candidates, total spent, and total spent in independent expenditures and communication costs.

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Pray tell, are there any numbers other than 3? Maybe even ones that come before it?

Israeli lobbyists exists. The Mossad exists. Israeli propaganda exists. The problem is turning that into Israel controlling the US as if Israel isn’t being outspent by the American aviation industry alone.

Hating Israel isn’t antisemitism, not sure how many ways this needs to be explained.
Israel is not in control of the US. Israel is a vassal of the US Empire.
Too bad Iran, Afghanistan and Greenland are missing data. I wonder what they think
Only Iran is a mystery.

It would be interesting to see what Mongolians think, given their geographic position. Mongolia could probably go four different ways.

Iran would pick either America or Israel. North Korea either America or South Korea. New Zealand either America or Australia.

USA USA USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Wait where’s Baltics? “No data” is not an excuse here 🤣
Seems obvious enough that it would be Russia
The many of the Euros and the Japanese are still quite racist.
Do you know the etymology of (history of the word) “slave”?
Robot obsessed Japan when pulling on that thread too.
Propaganda in Japan working like a charm holy shit.
No, they are just incredibly racist and despise the Chinese.
So they’ve been propagandised, then. It’s not like everyone in Japan popped out of the womb hating the Chinese.
People in Japan rarely know about how the world works. East Asian culture cares only about themselves.
Why are I$$ and the U$A listed as separate entities?
€1900 for the whole data set? Did I miss a ","?
I despise the current american regime but ignoring the advances China is having seem a bit ignorant in itself.

What advances has China made? Right now America is attacking Iran unprovoked. In no chronological order here are some of the things America has attacked:

Attacked Libya. Attacked Nigeria. Attacked Yemen. Attacked Iraq. Attacked Syria. Attacked Korea. Attacked Cuba. Attacked Venezuela. Attacked Yugoslavia.

Didn’t they also attack Sudan? Somalia? Columbia? Ecuador? Afghanistan?
And threatened to attack Canada, Mexico, Denmark?
Not to mention Russia.
Plus likely instigated coups in Kazachstan, Georgia, Belarus, Pakistan and Hong Kong.

Basically all their enemies, all neutral countries and half of all of their allies on the planet.

threatened to attack Canada, Mexico, Denmark? Not to mention Russia.

likely instigated coups […] Belarus

Where the absolute fuck do you get this information from, Russia Today?

Just going to ignore the rest of that then?

What?

You think you can write two true things and then a wildly false one, and anyone pointing out the false one is false is “ignoring” the true things?

Get your head out of your ass.

So you’ve got no response to their actual point, just nitpicking
Why would I have to have a response to the main point? Are we permitted to only ever talk about the US’s faults, and can freely make shit up to amplify that point?
So, nitpicking
Keep this mindset the next time you see someone spreading Israeli propaganda, the same way you react to Russian propaganda.

Why is it that you guys still require extraordinary evidence to entertain the idea that the US is behind regime change attempts in its enemy countries? You have evidence that the US is LITERALLY behind every single fucking pro-capitalist pro-NATO regime change for the past 80 years, but when evidence hasn’t surfaced yet of overt intervention you consider it a conspiracy?

Looking at the past 80 years, assuming US intervention should be the default stance regardless of available evidence until proven otherwise…

All regime changes have been caused by US, therefore we should assume that all regime changes have been caused by US without further evidence. Textbook cultism.

pro-capitalist pro-NATO regime change

The first part sure is relevant when talking about Belarus XD

evidence hasn’t surfaced yet

It’s been 5 years since the Belarusian protests have been extinguished and the opposition neutralised, and Belarus and Russia still have found no evidence? One might even start to consider the option that there is none in the first place, but luckily you made sure to state that it doesn’t matter anyway, since all regime changes were orchestrated by the US anyway.

Of course, those dumb third world Slavs must simply LOVE their right-wing autocrat who’s been ruling over their underdeveloped country for a quarter of a century and putting most of the opposition into jail, they NEVER could’ve come up with the idea of voting against him or protesting!

You know what’s funny? I didn’t even ask for “extraordinary evidence”, I expected just a minimal explanation, some connection based on something at least slightly better than circular cultish logic.

All regime changes have been caused by US, therefore we should assume that all regime changes have been caused by US without further evidence

Yes? That’s How scientific induction works. “The sun has always risen, it’s reasonable to assume it will rise tomorrow unless proven otherwise”. It’s logical to assume that the US is involved in regime change that’s favourable to its geopolitical goals.

It’s been 5 years since the Belarusian protests have been extinguished and the opposition neutralised, and Belarus and Russia still have found no evidence?

Evidence of funding of Russian opposition by Vovan and Lexus infiltrating the NED, media in Europe funded by the US, what more do you need? This is what I mean by extraordinary evidence.

Of course, those dumb third world Slavs must simply LOVE their right-wing autocrat who’s been ruling over their underdeveloped country for a quarter of a century and putting most of the opposition into jail, they NEVER could’ve come up with the idea of voting against him or protesting!

You don’t understand how US interference work. US interference doesn’t imply every protest is a psyop paid for by CIA and carried out by actors, it implies that the US funds opposition, their media, and corrupt officials to carry out PRO-NATO policy, and even threaten with or carry out economic sanctioning to those who don’t obey the US, generating instability that leads to protests. It’s not that there isn’t an organic opposition in Belarus, it’s that it is strongly funded and publicized by the US.

some connection based on something at least slightly better than circular cultish logic

Ok, provided evidence of funding of Russian opposition and of interference through US state media, what more do you need? Again: the correct position is that, if the US stands go gain from regime change, they are behind it in one way or another, as evidenced by the past entire century.

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I meant in terms of technological advancements
Technological advancement by itself is not a threat, at least not existential, for anyone. It is a threat to the US as the largest economic power in the world, but that’s a problem for businessmen, not so much for normal people.
Chiba isn’t more advanced than Europe or the US. The main difference is that they don’t put all their trust in the free market™ but instead chose to use and invest in already established tech.
China is actually more advanced than Europe and the US when it comes to certain areas like manufacturing, and is at a peer level when it comes to tech (soon to surpass).
the last time the PRC attacked anybody was in 1979
the last time the usa attacked anybody is as we speak

Thinks the US was fine before Trump, accuses others of being ignorant.

They’re not sending their best, folks

Agent Orange is not just a nickname for Trump. Look it up.
Why? China isn’t imperialist, and is charting an alternative via its socialist system.

Okay I get it, but clearly it’s Israel and Russia

Thinking the US is the one stinking up the world is just ill informed